Quote Originally Posted by hellenes
Well I agree with your first points BUT if people advertise RTW as an RTS and AoEIII as an RTS they clearly compete. Its just imo whole DOGMA of a huge part of gamers that are trapped in their dreamworld thinking that they build an empire (yep with building same size as people and couple of town centers...) whilst they play the pinnacle of dumped down warfare...

Hellenes
I've always considered the TW games to be turn based because of the strategic map part of it. If you do compare them, I agree there is no competition.