Seeing double (the population, that is)

**Byzantine Prince** · 10-23-2005, 19:27

Toga, I can't stand that kind capitulationist attitude.

We 'humans' are not all the same, we are the most variable of all animals and our motivations for doing things are complex. You cannot predict the future but you have to trust that the powerful and intelligent will not let anything that idiotic hapen to the planet.

**Papewaio** · 10-23-2005, 22:13

Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince

but you have to trust that the powerful and intelligent will not let anything that idiotic hapen to the planet.

Dude this is one of the more intelligent forums I have seen...

HeeeeeeellllllllllllllPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!

We are all going to Die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Imagine if the current population stayed stable but everyone used the same amount of resources as the USA... anyone seen what those figures look like?

**Togakure** · 10-23-2005, 22:36

Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince

Toga, I can't stand that kind capitulationist attitude.

We 'humans' are not all the same, we are the most variable of all animals and our motivations for doing things are complex. You cannot predict the future but you have to trust that the powerful and intelligent will not let anything that idiotic hapen to the planet.

Said with a bit of sarcasm, m8. Muahaha, but now I know how to annoy you

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"You have to trust ...," hmm ... It's a choice. Optimistic, cynical, neutral ... it really doesn't matter--like you said: you cannot predict the future. Indeed, we 'humans' are not the same. Imagine the now cliche scenario where a fanatical group that believes suicide bombing is ok gets a hold of a nuke or two or ten. All the powerful and intelligent people in the world cannot guarantee that this will never happen. Imagining such possibilities, sometimes I wax "capitulationist" (I think ...) and post whimsical cynicisms.

**Byzantine Prince** · 10-23-2005, 22:56

Toga. How would extremist groups be able to steal and then somehow denotate a nuclear weapon. I'm not sure if you know this but it's not that simple to play around with nuclear weapons. It's not like dynamite, you can't just blow it up, lol.

You know what you should really be afraid of? Terrorists being able to break into russia's smapls of smallpox and then letting that loose on the population. It's a relatively simple procedure provided you can get it out of it's container and then contaminating a couple of people with it.

Now I would think people in the higherups know all about this kind of thing. The CIA doesn't exist for no reason. I wouldn't panic over things like this. But then again, you might panic just to piss me off, so in the off chance that that hapens here's the smiley that I would use to respond:

**Papewaio** · 10-23-2005, 23:31

The CIA did not stop either of the attacks on the World Trade Towers... the car bombing nor the Airplanes.

15 sucide bombers who inject small pox like virus into themselves, incubate on the flight, ship, car trip etc and then each on arrival go clubbing/rave/big game... now that would be something to worry about.

**English assassin** · 10-24-2005, 12:01

In fact there is not "a lot of space on this earth," not for 9 billion. According to this report we were already at 120% of the earth's carrying capacity in 1999.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2062729.stm

But, also according to the report,

But we can solve this without austerity or hair shirts, by using technology and avoiding waste."

I imagine instead we will all sit around with our heads up our backsides until the planet is reduced to a worked out slag heap and our children have to look up what trees looked like in history books.

**Togakure** · 10-24-2005, 15:07

Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince

Toga. How would extremist groups be able to steal and then somehow denotate a nuclear weapon. I'm not sure if you know this but it's not that simple to play around with nuclear weapons. It's not like dynamite, you can't just blow it up, lol.

You know what you should really be afraid of? Terrorists being able to break into russia's smapls of smallpox and then letting that loose on the population. It's a relatively simple procedure provided you can get it out of it's container and then contaminating a couple of people with it.

Now I would think people in the higherups know all about this kind of thing. The CIA doesn't exist for no reason. I wouldn't panic over things like this. But then again, you might panic just to piss me off, so in the off chance that that hapens here's the smiley that I would use to respond:

Yes, of course: it would be very difficult for a small faction to obtain and detonate a nuclear weapon (but not impossible, imo). The example you give involving biological weapons is indeed a more likely threat. I agree that our intelligence communities know much of what's going on--but definitely not anywhere close to "all about this kind of thing," (I'm mean, come on ...). I'm not panicked, just aware of the possibilities and not the type to pass them off as impossible.

Why would I get upset? You're just expressing an opinion, and you haven't done so at my expense. No problem as far as I'm concerned m8.