ATHEIST POPE!!! (After Inquisition)

**Isvahsam** · 10-13-2005, 10:31

Well, if i am play a catholic faction, i always use the inqusition weapon as a natural (religious) killer. And i use the grand-inquisitors as assasins, even better them. Because the assasins can be caught easily but they can hardly be killed by an assasin. And they do (inqusite) for the church :D
Anyway, while i am playing as Sicillians, i had a great (8 star) grand-inqusitior, he had killed so many generals and kings. Even i erased the Aragon royal family with him and aragons were eliminated. And i wonder if i could use him to his boss (the Pope). I wonder if a member of the church could kill the boss (!) of the church. As we know that, after you had put him on a general, there are two choices, he could be killed or live. But if he's alive, he could get a vice or virtue. After an inquistion sometimes, they will be too religious (gaining the vices which increases the piety) that you can't kill him with an inquisition. But sometimes they could get the bad vices (being like an atheist which deletes all piety point :) ).
Anyway after this explanation, i put my grand-inquisitor on the pope, and he couldn't be killled. I say "normal

". After i put him on him several times, he got the piety decreaser vices. i say "what?

" And at the end he got the atheist virtue. I say ".uck!

" But how? How can a Pope be atheist? I asked these

questions many times to myself. But no answer, and i thought it could be just a bug of the game. And after one or two turns, the Pope (which always had wanted the catholics start a crusades against to me) buried on the cross which makes me feel good and laugh :)).
Thanks for your replies for now.

**Ciaran** · 10-13-2005, 10:41

Well, back then believing in God wasn´t exactly a prerequisite for a clerical career, some would even say it was a hindrance

**Vladimir** · 10-13-2005, 12:52

Have you heard of the Pope that gave birth? A little before our time frame but a good story. Medieval Total War is the name of the game, not Diplomacy, Inquisition: The life and times of Joan of Arc, or anything else. Consider it in that context.

**Matty** · 10-13-2005, 13:06

This is why the draft pope sits on a stool with a hole in the seat so that a cardinal can discretely check whether he's carrying the required 'meat and two veg'. I doubt they do that these days somehow.

**cegorach** · 10-14-2005, 12:17

[QUOTE=Vladimir]Have you heard of the Pope that gave birth?

Medieval time urban legend, it never happened.

Besides its is only a game

**Vladimir** · 10-14-2005, 13:21

[QUOTE=cegorach1]

Originally Posted by Vladimir

Have you heard of the Pope that gave birth?

Medieval time urban legend, it never happened.

Besides its is only a game

Ya, right. Next you'll say aliens didn't help build the pyramids.

**NodachiSam** · 10-15-2005, 00:49

Yep, it means you're cracking him. I have had a lot of atheist popes in my current game. Such as this fellow. His extreme rationality doesn't improve his diplomatic performance though. They are never elected like that BTW. Popes have always served till death parts them with their station so I imagine it would be awkward for everyone involved.

**amazon77** · 10-15-2005, 23:24

Originally Posted by Vladimir

Have you heard of the Pope that gave birth? A little before our time frame but a good story. Medieval Total War is the name of the game, not Diplomacy, Inquisition: The life and times of Joan of Arc, or anything else. Consider it in that context.

you 're talking about the supposed pope Joanna, however this was a legend to indicate how much influence some women had on the corrupted popes of the time. She didn't really exist, as a pope but as a lover of one.

**Patron** · 10-19-2005, 01:36

I LOLed at "a world ruled by the devout and faithful"

**HopAlongBunny** · 10-20-2005, 17:19

Atheist popes i've seen. Latest campaign produced a new heresy though; Pope is quite clearly married_has the wedding ring on his portrait

**Isvahsam** · 10-14-2005, 10:39

Hey, i just want inquisite the game (and Pope :) ) that if this point was thought or passed away by the Creative Assembly. As it seems, this point was not thought in this game which is the the age of the religious faith is important! Remember this! This period is about stunnig faith, and .... These are the early era description of the game. Religion is a big matter in this age. And history is full with the scandals deal with the religion. Everyone knows what church has done in the medieval times. And the worst is the inquisition as everyone knows. Anyway, i dont want mention about the history but here it is.