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    Default Re: Losing 96 provinces in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by Germaanse Strijder
    Yeah, this happened to me every time I played a campaign beyond the 60% mark. Eventually I just stopped playing MTW campaigns alltogether because of the sheer annoyance.
    You can have very little rebellions if you play well and avoids the things that triggers those massive rebellions. The only thing that can make those rebellions is then war with a faction with a big navy, but even then you can reduce the rebellions.

    BTW did he attack Corsica with his king or something?
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    I am near this point in my current campaign, so this interests me a lot. Is it because the king is cut off in Corsica? - I can't see a port on the screenshot - also the garrisons looked very low. Is the answer to build lots of happiness buildings like militas, cathedrals etc before this point. I had a rash of revolts about 20 years back, but a bit more conquering, a new King and starting a couple of cathedrals seem to have helped. Perhaps the unfortunate Egyptian should have spent his enormous treasury on some bricks and mortar - mind you, he could bribe his way back as well.
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    Ouch, that must have hurt. And I thought I had it bad with my civil war in the HRE, but in the end I only lost Livland and the neighbouring province. Plus, it seems to me, civil war broke out in all neighbour nations, the English (owning most of France) and the French (owning most of England ) lost a considerable amount of territory to rebellions as well. Good for me, now that I´ve cleaned up the rebellion I can snatch new territories without anyone screming murder about it

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    World record!!!!!

    Irrealistic? Well, the whole known world is ruled by a tyrant. Then the tyrant loses controle with the known world. Isn't it the ideal situation for a massive rebellion to happen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by el_slapper
    World record!!!!!

    Irrealistic? Well, the whole known world is ruled by a tyrant. Then the tyrant loses controle with the known world. Isn't it the ideal situation for a massive rebellion to happen?
    If it isn't, it should be!!
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    Good, aggressive game. To bad he wasn't smart AND aggressive.


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    Gah!
    Abandon all hope.

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    Wow ... that's all I can say...

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    Default Re: Losing 96 provinces in one year

    In my Irish game I fought off two massive rebellions: when another massive navy cut my lines of communications. One was further worsened by an earlier excommunication and the death of the king in the same year the seas were blockaded (that damn heir - new king popped up in Ireland!!!!!) I was able to fight / buy back myself in ten years.

    EDIT: What was most funny: at then end I was attacked by the Fatimids (thats Egypt, btw) in Sicily and when I removed their sea conncetion there was a loyalist rebellion in Sicily that was joined by 12 provinces: those I could not take back yet... So I got them back for free
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    Default Re: Re : Losing 96 provinces in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by el_slapper
    World record!!!!!

    Irrealistic? Well, the whole known world is ruled by a tyrant. Then the tyrant loses controle with the known world. Isn't it the ideal situation for a massive rebellion to happen?
    Depends if your a Tyrant. I never have much dread but a lot of happiness because I don't slaughter prisoners (even ringleaders) and I support happy building making. In fact, I wish some countries would just open the door to my rule because if I lived in a country and a nice leader wanted to "save us" from a Tyrant, I would not only drop my arms but I would support anyway I can. Don't quote me but when the Americans recaptured France and other territories, they weren't 100% sure that we wouldn't just keep them like the Nazis. I think faith and a less tyranical ruler would do wonders in persuading the public that life would be better WITH staying with a "Current but Foreign" leader than backing an evil but "National original" leader
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    Default Re : Re: Re : Losing 96 provinces in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by Budwise
    (.../...) Don't quote me but when the Americans recaptured France and other territories, they weren't 100% sure that we wouldn't just keep them like the Nazis. (.../...)
    mmmmh, this is backroom meat so I won't argue, just to say that things are more complicated ==> this is managed by the "loyalty" effect.
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    Once again , a forward notice: keep the discussion on the original thread topic,or related,rebellions.
    Abandon all hope.

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    Default Re: Re : Re: Re : Losing 96 provinces in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by el_slapper
    mmmmh, this is backroom meat so I won't argue, just to say that things are more complicated ==> this is managed by the "loyalty" effect.
    Yeah, I know. I have done a lot of studying on this period of time and I know their is a lot of other reasons, but I needed a quick example. But then again, in history countries have agreed upon one thing and when the objective was complete, they do another.
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    Congratulations Knight Templar on getting DSL. Hope you'll now write more.
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