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    after the king dies, how does the computer choose which prince to be the king . Is it random ?

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    It chooses the oldest one. In addition, if the oldest son sucks then you're gonna have a civil war. That's why I always keep the best son (full acumen, high command and piety) in the capital province and send the rest of heirs to war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kofti
    after the king dies, how does the computer choose which prince to be the king . Is it random ?
    That depends on which game you are playing. In S:TW, the oldest son or will become leader, unless there is no adult son, then the title goes to the Daimyo's oldest brother. In M:TW the system is the same, except that some factions (the Holy Roman Empire and the Papacy) will chose the best general if there are no adult heirs. The Pope never has children, so this happens always for the Papacy.

    In R:TW you can go to the family tree and assign a member as faction heir. The game automatically assign the faction heir title to the highest-influence family member. You can assign the title to another member, but this will result in a "disinherited" trait that lowers influence for the member that loses the title.
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    Actually, I was playing MTW once when I got a message from his Holiness asking for my daughter's hand in marriage. I wish I had saved a screenshot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Henry V
    Actually, I was playing MTW once when I got a message from his Holiness asking for my daughter's hand in marriage. I wish I had saved a screenshot.
    It never happened to me, but wasn't it Ironside that posted a screenshot of the Pope accepting an offer of mariage? The game sometimes does odd things to royal lines.
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    i am playing mtw. if i don't want to oldest prince to become the leader ( low stats ), what i do ?? also i figured it is harder for princes to get stars in battle than normal generals.

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    Kill off your oldest heir. It is cruel, but...for the good of the kingdom!

    The popular method is to send him to some hopeless battle somewhere far away and hope that he won't return. Indeed, some would go so far as to manipulate the naval chain to ensure that he won't return; by sending him to some shoreline provinces far away, then cut the naval connection between that province and your kingdom.

    Sometimes, though, that oldest heir would survive battles after battles in ironic underdog's victories that he becomes a worthy heir.

    Nonetheless, the best method to maintaining a good royal line is always to have an extremely-high influence king. His heirs will be affected and they will be great. That's why the early Byzantines are so formidable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Henry V
    Actually, I was playing MTW once when I got a message from his Holiness asking for my daughter's hand in marriage. I wish I had saved a screenshot.
    I know someone not too far back thought the Pope had asked for their daughter, but after going back to investigate more closely discovered it was actually the Sicilians. The Sicilian king had somehow gotten the title "King of the Papal States" which led to the confusion

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    I Like the last Quote On your Sig Ajax :)

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    I have a question here:
    How do you get your princes to marry in MTW? My oldest is 45 now and still mateless. Do I have to request marriage from other factions or will he find someone from his own lands?
    I think this is important for the royal line to continue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seyfullah
    I have a question here:
    How do you get your princes to marry in MTW? My oldest is 45 now and still mateless. Do I have to request marriage from other factions or will he find someone from his own lands?
    I'm not sure how this works for muslim factions (yet to play them) but the Christians can send their emissaries to try and court "free" princesses abroad.
    The swarming tactic is the way to go, even 0 valor emissaries will do the job if there's 15 of them :)

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    Your unmarried princes we'll get married soon as they become kings. The reason you should marry them before they become kings so that you're blessed by many heirs.

    I don't know if this is absolute but I get to marry princesses easily of those factions that aren't my allies.

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    My last bad heir that I needed to kill off ended up squaring off with the sicilians. Their entire royal line was in malta with very little else around to fight. My single unit of ghulams killed four of the five heirs, and killed nearly 60 royal knights before finally being put down. A shame, he had some great warrior virtues, but zero acumen just doesn't work for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seyfullah
    I have a question here:
    How do you get your princes to marry in MTW? My oldest is 45 now and still mateless. Do I have to request marriage from other factions or will he find someone from his own lands?
    Princes tend to marry to a noble's daughter soon after they become king. Marrying a foreign princess gives you heirs faster, but has otherwise no effect. Muslim princes don't need this however. They apparently inherit their fathers harem once they become faction leader. I have never gotten a Christian princess to marry my Muslim sons.
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    Princess can be also useful for boosting the loyalty of your top noch generals and most capable governors.

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