Thank you for the replies gentlemen. My first experience with the Civ. series was version III. I was really surprised by how "un-fun" it was while still having that mentioned "well, one more turn" quality. I actually bought an expansion to it: I don't remember the title "empires" or something where the focus was various ages of the world. I liked that idea, but the game still suffered from the earlier mentioned qualities of the base game. Obviously, I haven't bought the new IV, but am a little interested based on the comments.

Simon: the EB mod. is out? I have been playing RTR and recently the new big BI mod by Attila over at TW Center. What are the differences between EB and RTR?