Civilization IV

**econ21** · 01-13-2006, 03:20

Originally Posted by voigtkampf

All in all, I say go. I will.

Good man!

**Proletariat** · 01-23-2006, 04:50

I love watching a large stacked army I spent a dozen turns creating and positioning being utterly annihilated by two frigging longbow units.

Fun game, but really I hope I'm just being a n00b with my siege tactics so far.

**Ironside** · 01-23-2006, 09:27

Originally Posted by Proletariat

I love watching a large stacked army I spent a dozen turns creating and positioning being utterly annihilated by two frigging longbow units.

Fun game, but really I hope I'm just being a n00b with my siege tactics so far.

It's called more catapults, more catapults and did I mention more catapults? Get that bonus defence to zero before even trying to assult the city.

Well you only need one catapult (or any other form of artillery), but it will take you a while to get that defence bonus so low that it's worth attacking the city.

**econ21** · 01-23-2006, 10:27

Originally Posted by Proletariat

I love watching a large stacked army I spent a dozen turns creating and positioning being utterly annihilated by two frigging longbow units.

Civ4 has quite a marked "rock-paper-scissors" type combat system - I think seemingly lowly longbow units are the best city defenders until gunpowder. As Ironside says, catapults are the counter with perhaps city-raiding macemen being the units to go through the breach.

**Proletariat** · 01-23-2006, 14:54

Maybe it's just rotten luck I'm having. FWIW, the two times I was massacred by longbowmen, I was using a couple catapults, a couple knights, and then four or five musketeers/grenadiers (playing as the French).

The catupults launched their loads clear over the intended target and then were destroyed by the arrows. Then the musketeers I think, killed one unit of the defenders before the rest of my army was soundly destroyed by the next longbowman unit.

Oh well. Thanks for the tip Ironside and Simon, I'm going back to finish off these pesky Incas with nothing but catupults, maceman and a musketeer or two.

**Ironside** · 01-23-2006, 18:51

Right-clicking on the enemy shows the combat stats, bonuses and odds for victory. Can be good to determinate if it was simply bad luck or if you need to do something about the combat odds.

**Proletariat** · 01-23-2006, 19:01

I'm afraid it was a much stupider mistake than that. I just resieged the same city but this time hit the 'bombard' button with my catapults instead of just right clicking. Biiig difference. Thanks again.