Civilization IV

**Divine Wind** · 10-24-2005, 00:05

Anyone buying it? Ive ordered my copy off Amazon today and it should arrive by tuesday

IGN Review can be found here.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/660/660495p1.html

Lots of very late nights in prospect i expect.

**LeftEyeNine** · 10-24-2005, 01:26

Despite Turks being out, I can't stand my Civ affair

**NodachiSam** · 10-24-2005, 05:51

Yea that is pretty wierd, considering how powerful the ottoman empire got at one time. I kind of see how they can overlap with the persians geographically but then again they were fairly distinct cultures, at least as distinct as France and England I imagine. I've never gotten the impression Civ games try to be history simulations.

I will likely buy this game but I am a bit neffed that the developers couldn't be imaginative enough to include Zoroatrism and Hellenism as religions. They were pretty big in their times and could have survived to be quite influential. Zoroatrism still exists a little bit but I mean when it was fairly large. Having Greece and Rome and no Hellenism seems so wrong. Hinduism and Judaism have very ancient roots and still exist afterall. *sigh*

Ahwell... lots of little things like that will probably bug me but it still looks good enough to give a try. I got a bit annoyed at Civ III for various reasons. Obviously they're dam important now and I could understand people'd want to play America but they are such a young culture. Them being in stone age irked me. As well, that I couldn't group armies together annoyed me to no end. I've read combat is better so I'll give it a shot. Hopefully there'll be a demo.

**screwtype** · 10-24-2005, 07:28

Originally Posted by Divine Wind

Anyone buying it? Ive ordered my copy off Amazon today and it should arrive by tuesday

IGN Review can be found here.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/660/660495p1.html

Lots of very late nights in prospect i expect.

I will definitely have a look at the reviews. I honestly didn't like Civ III much, just far too much micromanagement and the graphics are really naff, but the game still had some very nice features and a graphics overhaul and some work here and there could translate into an excellent title.

Edit: Having just read the ign review, I'm sorely tempted to rush out and buy it right away! I especially liked this paragraph:

Fans should be assured that all the basic concepts from Civilization are still here, but many of the more obnoxious or troublesome elements have been greatly improved upon. City production, combat, and culture have all been tweaked to allow for more intuitive application within the game. Concepts like civil disorder, predictable tech paths, pollution and the creeping pace of the late game have all benefited from substantial revisions that make them more manageable and enjoyable aspects of your strategy.

The "creeping pace of the late game" is definitely something that was a major turn-off for me.

While I'm not totally in love with the new graphic style (the military units especially look too big to me) it's obviously a vast improvement over the dated graphics of the previous instalment. I also like the sound of the new unit promotion feature.

Some of the other changes I didn't like the sound of so much, but overall it looks like a considerable improvement. This might well be my next full price title...

**The_Doctor** · 10-24-2005, 10:07

It looks excellent.

**ShadesWolf** · 10-24-2005, 10:27

Oh Yes
I cant wait

**NodachiSam** · 10-24-2005, 18:00

Has anyone heard anything about a demo? I often attempt to try a game first before I buy, legitamately, or otherwise.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 10-24-2005, 18:33

Hmm. It seems that the UN can now introduce rules and whatnot. My question is: are these binding? I.e. if the UN votes for changing something that affects you, does it not give you an option to just ignore the UN?

Crazed Rabbit

**English assassin** · 10-24-2005, 18:38

hmm. It's going to have to be quite a lot different to/better than Civ III before its a full price buy for me.

I kind of suspect they churn the franchise every few years as new gamers come of age (as it were) but if not and its really new, I'll get it. It IS Civ after all.