Civilization IV

[The_Doctor]

Hmm. It seems that the UN can now introduce rules and whatnot. My question is: are these binding? I.e. if the UN votes for changing something that affects you, does it not give you an option to just ignore the UN?

It will probably be like SMAC, if you ignore the UN everybody who said yes will hate you.

You would be a rouge state.

hmm. It's going to have to be quite a lot different to/better than Civ III before its a full price buy for me.

From what I have read, it will be. Most reviews say it is the best Civ ever.

These are good previews:
http://civilization4.net/3/171/

If that does not convince you, nothing will.

[The_Doctor]

According to this you have to comply with the UN.
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ4/prev...ng_the_gap.php

Maybe you can change your government after the resolution?

[GoreBag]

Looks like it comes out today. I may head over to EB and see what's up.

[The_Doctor]

Today or tomorrow for the US.

The 4th for Europe.

Or so I have heard.

[Mongoose]

I hope it's as good as SMAC, Becuase CIV3 wasn't. unlike SMAC, however, there will be no shortage of people online.


Very glad to hear about the reduced MM, that alone might make it worth buying. SMAC and CIV3 are painful after about 200-300 turns*, setting the production quees alone can take up to 5 minutes

Yes, i'm very slow

[screwtype]

I hope it's as good as SMAC, Becuase CIV3 wasn't. unlike SMAC, however, there will be no shortage of people online.


Very glad to hear about the reduced MM, that alone might make it worth buying. SMAC and CIV3 are painful after about 200-300 turns*, setting the production quees alone can take up to 5 minutes

What's SMAC and MM?

Yeah, Civ3 just gets unplayable at a certain point. Waiting for all those AI factions at war to move and attack each other, one unit at a time - what a yawn!

I sure hope they've fixed that in this instalment. But it does seem they've stuck to the basic design when it comes to combat, which is a disappointment. And I suppose your military units still "conquer" at one lousy tile per turn.

Why don't these strategy game designers do something radical for a change and actually give us a real combat system to play with?

Oh well, at least they've got rid of corruption. Athough it remains to be seen whether what replaces it is an improvement...

All the same, I just might take a punt and pre-order. I'm hanging out for a decent strategy game, every new release these days seems to be either a shooter or a MMORG...

[Mongoose]

Screwtype

Micro Management

SMAC is a "Sci fi" Version of CIV, and IMO has better gameplay. The Story line is weak, but i think it makes up for that with large amount of units and the flexible gameplay.

http://www.firaxis.com/smac/

Why don't these strategy game designers do something radical for a change and actually give us a real combat system to play with?

Well, for the same reason that RTW has a weak Campaign; Making a large change would scare people, or at least thats what the developers seem to think. Or perhaps it woould take too long and it's easier to just clone an older game?

All the same, I just might take a punt and pre-order. I'm hanging out for a decent strategy game, every new release these days seems to be either a shooter or a MMORG...

Not all shooters and MMORG's are bad...but most of them are. Trying to work as part of a team to achieve a strategic goal is fun and rewarding. The problem is that most people are too busy typing "0mgz u r t3h ******* hax0rz!11! i r w1l 9wn u!1!!!1" To actually play the game properly. and, ofcourse, there can be the problem that the game is set u in a more "Free for all way" Which, sadly, seems to be the case alot of the time these days.

The issue with MMORG is that they are so exspensive, and there are always so many people speaking l337 that there just isn't much role playing, which defeats the point of the game.