What are you on about people???

Civilization from number I-III (allthough III was both steps forward and backward) are clearly the best campaign, turn based empire building games ever.

In comparison totalwar campaigns suck, europa universalis games suck (god i hate how they handle battles and units in europa universalis soooo booring). Allthough there are elements in these games that civ should learn from.

I will find out about civ IV today yeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaa :)

Kalle