Civilization IV

**Papewaio** · 10-28-2005, 22:19

Customs in Australia recently put in a new computer system... it is delaying all and I mean all shipments by days and upto weeks. The docks are overflowing. All critical stuff is getting through.

PC games are not on that list, so it will be a while before it hits the stores... unless one of the guys who installed the customs system is a civ fan and gets it through quicker.

**GodsPetMonkey** · 10-29-2005, 00:22

Originally Posted by Papewaio

Customs in Australia recently put in a new computer system... it is delaying all and I mean all shipments by days and upto weeks. The docks are overflowing. All critical stuff is getting through.

PC games are not on that list, so it will be a while before it hits the stores... unless one of the guys who installed the customs system is a civ fan and gets it through quicker.

I think you just worked out what on those new computer systems is delaying all those shipments!

"We really gotta get all that stuff moving! The boss is ticked!"
"But, but... Just ONE more turn"

**ChaosLord** · 10-29-2005, 01:09

There are 650 turns in an epic game, and things are produced/researched more slowly. Next is 430 turns in a normal game and things produced/researched at the "normal" rate. And lastly 295 turns in a quick game where things are produced/researched faster. If you need a comparison, the standard game in in Civ3 was 540 turns. So normal will be faster then regular Civ3, and epic will be longer, with quick being for short games.

**screwtype** · 10-29-2005, 06:38

Originally Posted by ChaosLord

There are 650 turns in an epic game, and things are produced/researched more slowly.

I don't call that "epic". When I first started playing Civ3, I played a couple of "huge" campaigns where I actually ran out of turns. 540 turns is the default in a Civ3 game.

However you can set it to a maximum of 1000 turns and that's what I do with every Civ3 game now. I'll be disappointed if you can't set it at least that high in Civ4.

**frogbeastegg** · 10-29-2005, 09:36

I pre-ordered it, ready for the UK release.

My feeble willpower, already near breaking point thanks to reading some very good stuff about the game on another forum, crumbled when I saw it was £15 off and eligable for free delivery on amazon.uk.

I feel very doomed now.

**The_Doctor** · 10-29-2005, 10:30

I feel very doomed now.

Sid has taken another soul.

However you can set it to a maximum of 1000 turns and that's what I do with every Civ3 game now. I'll be disappointed if you can't set it at least that high in Civ4.

It says the game is very moddable. So you could increase the number of turns, the cost of each tech/unit/building.

**frogbeastegg** · 10-29-2005, 16:16

A question, now you have all helped drag the frog into something she hoped to stay clear of for the sake of her life and sanity (oh, the perils of being a mod! Although I admit it was my own stupidity which led to me reading the thread on the other forum): does Civ4 support hotseat MP? As in 2 people playing on one PC?

Now, a second question, one which is more musing out aloud assuming the abopve question is answered "Yes.": when my boyfriend inevitably asks if he can play too, would it be crueller to refuse to let him play, or to let him play?

**screwtype** · 10-29-2005, 06:35

Originally Posted by Papewaio

Customs in Australia recently put in a new computer system... it is delaying all and I mean all shipments by days and upto weeks. The docks are overflowing. All critical stuff is getting through.

PC games are not on that list, so it will be a while before it hits the stores... unless one of the guys who installed the customs system is a civ fan and gets it through quicker.

They still haven't even managed to get BI to my local EB store yet. But Civ4 will be arriving on Nov 3 or 4. However you have to pre-order because there's a lot of demand.

I was going to pre-order, but I just can't convince myself I like the Civ paradigm enough to pay $89.95 for it...