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    Senior Member Senior Member English assassin's Avatar
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    I reckon a joke that begins " A Scouser, a Frenchman and a Blonde walked into a bar..." would be the ultimate frontroom kiss of death right now.

    Seriously, I can easily see why the mods are more than usually twitchy, but surely shutting the thread about the scouse chicken was slightly unnecessary? After all scousers are "famous for their sense of humour". Maybe we need a clear statement about what sort of jokes are unacceptable, if its no jokes at all that involve any identifiable group of people, well, OK, I guess, but we needs to know.

    Our Welsh members seem reasonably relaxed about a low level of references to sheep and leeks, for instance, and it doesn't bother me if there are a few references to bad teeth or whatever. Mostly we can tell when comments are made in good spirit or not and its a shame to lose some friendly ribbing. If it got too much, as the French bashing not infrequently does, I can see we need a quiet word, but otherwise people are pretty sensible here IMHO.
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    My forum admin and three year firend elsewhere, who had never reacted to a sheep joke till now, being a Scotsman himself, deleted and entire thread because of a post of mine including a sheep joke as a footnote. No problem, actually I apologized and all is well now, but you will never know when people will get pissed of with such things. Ethnicity is too delicate a matter to play with.

    Furthermore, that thread was bad.
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    It's probably a British thing. We, in the UK are a funny lot. We live on a small island cheek by jowl most of the time, and it's one of the national sports to pull each others leg. Example; I chat with a bloke from, say London. After a while the banter starts. He's a 'poufty southerner' and I'm a 'northern git'. No one is offended, however an outsider looking in may well think these two guys must really hate each other. Not at all. Nothing could be further from the truth. As EA said our Welsh brethren take the sheep and leek jokes in their stride, as I have to as well, living as I do in Yorks. (the scousers call us 'woolley backs' baaa)

    However I actually thought about this last night and in retrospect perhaps the thread should have been posted originally in the backroom. Just to be on the safe side.

    Furthermore, that thread was bad.
    Well the guys from Liverpool didn't take it as bad, in fact knowing the scouse mindset they'd have been rolling on the floor. The scouse jokes I posted were told to me by my mate from Walton, in the shadow of Goodison park.

    http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/...aff3/index.htm

    I'm sure all that was as clear as mud to our non-UK members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    It's probably a British thing. We live on a small island cheek by jowl most of the time, and it's one of the national sports to pull each others leg.
    Same thing in The Neds. I have yet to see the first serious falling-out between two or more Dutch members of the .org. We make the most horrible jokes sometimes, mostly in Dutch so the rest of the forum doesn't understand, and we have huge political differences, but somehow we manage to deal with those without ruffing too many feathers. I guess it comes with the territory (too small for a fight, before you can land a punch you hurt your elbow on a wall or on somebody else's ribcase).

    Ain't that right, Fragony?

    Let's polder a bit, just to show 'em eh?
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    Its going to be a bit of a strain to have to remember not to ask InsaneApache where his whippet is, and he'll have to get used to not calling me a soft shandy drinking poof, but I guess we can adapt if we have to.

    I suppose its a bit unfair since if anyone other than a northern monkey called me a soft shandy drinking poof I would be annoyed, fair enough. But then its easy enough for UK patron not to join in with any yankee/southerner banter so I think people respect the boundaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by English assassin
    Its going to be a bit of a strain to have to remember not to ask InsaneApache where his whippet is, and he'll have to get used to not calling me a soft shandy drinking poof, but I guess we can adapt if we have to.
    Nonsense, this is clearly an infringement on your cultural identity. Isn't there some paragraph in some UN declaration about the preservation of such hallowed oral traditions as the Welsh sheep-joke and other immaterial cultural monuments?


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    Ah, found it. It is the UN Proclamation of Masterpieces of the Oral and Intangible Heritage of Humanity of May 18, 2001.

    The oral and intangible heritage has been defined by international experts convened by UNESCO as “peoples’ learned processes along with the knowledge, skills and creativity that inform and are developed by them, the products they create, and the resources, spaces and other aspects of social and natural context necessary to their sustainability; these processes provide living communities with a sense of continuity with previous generations and are important to cultural identity, as well as to the safeguarding of cultural diversity and creativity of humanity.”
    So there we are. There is no justification to suppress such gems of popular orally transmitted knowledge as the reason why the Mersey runs through Liverpool (If it walked, it would be mugged. Arrite, arrite, clam down!)
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    Default Re: Ultimate thread closing

    The thread was closed because it was an ongoing insult of an identifiable group, not because it involved a chicken. Granted, the thread might seem less than serious to many, including yourself, but it set a bad precedent by repeatedly referring to a certain group of people as thieves.

    If you disagree, you have every right to take up the matter with BKS or discuss it here in the Watchtower.

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