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    Default Thread not closed but gone !!!

    A new thread that was opened by me is gone , just like that . Without entering (for the moment) in to the subject of the thread , can someone please remind me the reasons (ForumRules) for erasing threads .
    This is the first time I saw it in my 11 months here .
    Btw - the amazing thing is that no one can see the thread (well...) , so how can one be able to discuss about it (...)
    Last edited by caesar44; 10-27-2005 at 22:07.
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    Default Re: Thread not closed but gone !!!

    I would imagine that the mods felt that a thread devoted to insulting a user modification had no place in the entire forum, much less in the Monastery, which is only for historical discussion.
    Cogita tute


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    Default Re: Thread not closed but gone !!!

    Its nothing really new. Mods can delete threads, but it is seldom used.

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    Default Re: Thread not closed but gone !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Steppe Merc
    Its nothing really new. Mods can delete threads, but it is seldom used.

    I know it is not new , but please tell me why .
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    Caesar, no one claimed to have sources no one else had. Sarcasm pointed out some of our proffesional historians have more information than a certaint person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steppe Merc
    Caesar, no one claimed to have sources no one else had. Sarcasm pointed out some of our proffesional historians have more information than a certaint person.
    He claimed a general claim (please read it again) , but you see , we can discuss it , so why the moderator erased the thread , I really don't understand it . I will go another step , OK , the EB team member is right , you (EB team) had access to knowledge that others have not (go figure...) , don't you think it worth a thread in the monastery ? I say , hell this is big news !!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by khelvan
    I would imagine that the mods felt that a thread devoted to insulting a user modification had no place in the entire forum, much less in the Monastery, which is only for historical discussion.

    Insulting ? How is that ?
    In the monastery , why ? Because I asked a simple question , that is , how the EB members had an access to historical sources or knowledge that anybody else does not have (that is what the EB team member have said...) ? People did not learn in universities ? People don't have access to libraries ? To the internet ? suddenly one have new sources that the academy does not know about it ? Did the EB team members got books that others can't get ? Did they found Livy's lost books ? only the EB team members can use ancient Latin or Greek ? Did they found another version of the bible ? Did history is written for the first time by the EB team members ? That is for the monastery !
    Now tell me how are those questions worth erasing a thread ? ha ? I say , a moderators conspiracy ! (can you belive this , another one , I did not belive that asking those questions is not allowed in a forum , go figure) . What is the next step ?
    Btw - if you want to answer those question...no , I don't think you want to...
    Last edited by caesar44; 10-28-2005 at 00:55.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caesar44
    Insulting ? How is that ?
    Because of the manner in which you asked, and your attitude. In the US we call it passive-aggressive. You mask your aggression by making statements you know will inflame but without open insults, and then play innocent when challenged.

    Quote Originally Posted by caesar44
    Because I asked a simple question , that is , how the EB members had an access to historical sources or knowledge that anybody else does not have (that is what the EB team member have said...) ?
    Regardless, your post was not fit for the Monastery. It was about EB, so it should be posted in the EB area. But you didn't want to ask EB members, you wanted to flame EB indirectly, so you posted in the Monastery.

    Generally EB doesn't respond to trolls, but I guess I've had a masochistic streak lately, so I will do my best to try and help you understand.

    Three EB members are actively involved in archaeological digs or direct translation of things that have never before been translated to modern languages, two of whom do this for a living. Like all new discoveries these things take time to publish, and in the case of our translator this information may not be published in English for decades, as the field of study lacks much interest and is considered boring by many. Others have participated in such research or archaeological expeditions in the course of their studies, and have been a party to other discoveries that will be published in due time, and at least one will probably publish some on his own.

    We also have made a conscious effort to contact the noted experts in fields of study where we are light on expertise, and have had the good fortune to be in communication with some very real experts. This information may be available to many, but very few will go to the lengths we have gone to in order to get it.

    So, we have the good fortune to have at least one true expert, on the cutting edge of his field, as a member of our team, others with high levels of access to information that people outside of these fields don't have access to, and have done some hard work in contacting other experts for their research and opinions.

    Quote Originally Posted by caesar44
    People did not learn in universities ?
    Surely they did, but some of our research is not taught in universities. Yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by caesar44
    People don't have access to libraries ?
    Surely they do, but only people in the field of academic research have access to the international academic network, and even then current research that isn't published won't be found there.

    Quote Originally Posted by caesar44
    To the internet ?
    You can't be serious.

    Quote Originally Posted by caesar44
    suddenly one have new sources that the academy does not know about it ?
    What academy? Perhaps you don't understand how discoveries are made and published, and how that information gets disseminated. Or how some things take a very long time to be published.

    Quote Originally Posted by caesar44
    Did the EB team members got books that others can't get ?
    No, but at least one EB team member has read books that only a handful of people in the world (relatively speaking) have the language skill to read.

    Quote Originally Posted by caesar44
    Did they found Livy's lost books ?
    Which books would those be?

    Quote Originally Posted by caesar44
    only the EB team members can use ancient Latin or Greek ?
    Come on, troll, certainly you can do better than these. Use a little imagination.

    Quote Originally Posted by caesar44
    Did they found another version of the bible ?
    Yes. Praise ZeuJesus!

    Quote Originally Posted by caesar44
    Did history is written for the first time by the EB team members ?
    No, but based on some statements you have made in our forum you should be asking yourself that question.

    Quote Originally Posted by caesar44
    That is for the monastery !
    Sadly, no, that is for your imagination.

    Quote Originally Posted by caesar44
    Btw - if you want to answer those question...no , I don't think you want to...
    No, I don't really want to, because feeding the trolls is a bad idea. Based on your past history you will now flip out and make irrational statements. You will froth at the mouth and claim that the world is out to get you, and also throw in some completely ahistorical claims which have no basis in fact and no support through evidence.

    But, please do prove me wrong. It wouldn't be the first time I have reformed a troll.
    Cogita tute


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    Which books would those be?
    "The War with Hannibal"

    I have it...


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    khelvan Because of the manner in which you asked, and your attitude. In the US we call it passive-aggressive. You mask your aggression by making statements you know will inflame but without open insults, and then play innocent when challenged.[/B]

    Thank you for your psychological analysis...


    Regardless, your post was not fit for the Monastery. It was about EB, so it should be posted in the EB area. But you didn't want to ask EB members, you wanted to flame EB indirectly, so you posted in the Monastery.

    So now you can read my thoughts...

    Generally EB doesn't respond to trolls, but I guess I've had a masochistic streak lately, so I will do my best to try and help you understand.

    Troll...and you are talking about insults , my dear Santa

    Three EB members are actively involved in archaeological digs or direct translation of things that have never before been translated to modern languages, two of whom do this for a living. Like all new discoveries these things take time to publish, and in the case of our translator this information may not be published in English for decades, as the field of study lacks much interest and is considered boring by many. Others have participated in such research or archaeological expeditions in the course of their studies, and have been a party to other discoveries that will be published in due time, and at least one will probably publish some on his own.

    We also have made a conscious effort to contact the noted experts in fields of study where we are light on expertise, and have had the good fortune to be in communication with some very real experts. This information may be available to many, but very few will go to the lengths we have gone to in order to get it.

    So, we have the good fortune to have at least one true expert, on the cutting edge of his field, as a member of our team, others with high levels of access to information that people outside of these fields don't have access to, and have done some hard work in contacting other experts for their research and opinions.

    Surely they did, but some of our research is not taught in universities. Yet.

    Surely they do, but only people in the field of academic research have access to the international academic network, and even then current research that isn't published won't be found there.


    Waow , some 200 words argument , you see , you can do it !!!

    You can't be serious.

    That's include your previews ?

    What academy? Perhaps you don't understand how discoveries are made and published, and how that information gets disseminated. Or how some things take a very long time to be published.

    Aha .

    No, but at least one EB team member has read books that only a handful of people in the world (relatively speaking) have the language skill to read.

    Hmmm , good for him . So when he is going to tell us that Hannibal took rome ?

    Which books would those be?

    Is this a joke ? I thought that you have something...shame (btw , its 10 to 20 and 46 to 142)

    Come on, troll, certainly you can do better than these. Use a little imagination.

    ???

    Yes. Praise ZeuJesus!

    Is this is alcohol or something ?

    No, but based on some statements you have made in our forum you should be asking yourself that question.

    What about you ?

    Sadly, no, that is for your imagination.

    Sadly ? Why ? Please tell us

    No, I don't really want to, because feeding the trolls is a bad idea. Based on your past history you will now flip out and make irrational statements. You will froth at the mouth and claim that the world is out to get you, and also throw in some completely ahistorical claims which have no basis in fact and no support through evidence.

    And now you are a fortune teller...

    But, please do prove me wrong. It wouldn't be the first time I have reformed a troll. :scastle

    Ah , yes , a troll , forumrules and all that...talking like a true troll fighter , tell me , how they killed trolls back then , please consulte your un published books...(that is a good one , a good one , un published books...) .
    Last edited by caesar44; 10-28-2005 at 14:09.
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