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    Can someone help me please?
    The American right wing is so confusing to a simple European.
    What are:

    Conservatives
    Republicans
    Neo-Cons
    Religious Fanatics
    Creationists
    Think Tanks
    Lobbiests
    KKK?

    What do they stand for? What is their influence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube
    The "Right-Wing" is a misleading term. On the Right, we have anything from Libertarians who tend to be social liberals, to states rights proponents, to neocons who are absolutely nothing at all like the former two in that they are heavily socially conservative and intervensionist, to religious right enthusiasts that would happily live in a theocracy.
    Now I am even more confused Thank you

    Libertarians?? Are they the same as Liberals?
    States rights proponents
    Intervensionists

    I used to think that America has a rather boring two party system. Now I have to learn that it is extremly complex and confusing.

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    Libertarians?? Are they the same as Liberals?
    Heck no
    You want to get even more confused. Im a Libertarian yet so is Ichi. Go figure.

    Heres the Libertarian website

    LINK

    Heres a list of somecurrent politicl parties in the US

    Alaskan Independence Party
    Aloha Aina Party
    America First Party
    American Heritage Party
    American Independent Party
    American Nazi Party
    American Party
    American Reform Party
    American Patriot Party
    American Populist Renaissance
    Charter Party of Cincinnati, Ohio
    Communist Party USA
    Conservative Party of New Jersey
    Conservative Party of New York State
    Constitutional Action Party
    Covenant Party (Northern Mariana Islands)
    Falconist Party
    Family Values Party
    Freedom Party of the U.S.A.
    Freedom Socialist Party
    Grassroots Party
    Greens/Green Party USA
    Independence Party of Minnesota
    Independent American Party
    Independent Citizens Movement (US Virgin Islands)
    Labor Party
    Liberal Party (New York State)
    Liberty Union Party (Vermont)
    Light Party
    Marijuana Party
    Marijuana Reform Party (New York)
    Mountain Party (West Virginia)
    Natural Law Party
    New Party
    New Progressive Party of Puerto Rico
    New Union Party
    New York State Right to Life Party
    Peace and Freedom Party
    Personal Choice Party
    Popular Democratic Party of Puerto Rico
    Populist Party (Nader 2004-affiliated, unrelated to earlier so-named parties)
    Progressive Party (Vermont)
    Prohibition Party
    Puerto Rican Independence Party
    Reform Party
    Republican Moderate Party (Alaska)
    Revolutionary Communist Party
    Socialist Action
    Socialist Alternative
    Socialist Equality Party
    Socialist Labor Party
    Socialist Party USA
    Socialist Workers Party
    Southern Party
    Southern Independence Party
    Spartacist League
    United Citizens Party
    U.S. Pacifist Party
    U.S. Taxpayers Party
    We the People Party
    Workers World Party
    Working Families Party
    Workers Party, USA
    World Socialist Party of the United States


    Heres a rundown on some of the major players

    LINK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    Marijuana Party
    Marijuana Reform Party (New York)
    Did the latter secede from the first?

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    Can someone help me please?
    The American right wing is so confusing to a simple European.
    What are:

    Conservatives
    Republicans
    Neo-Cons
    Religious Fanatics
    Creationists
    Think Tanks
    Lobbiests
    KKK?
    It's np man, most americans don't even know for sure what is up over here. u want to know, and anyone can respect that. conservatives are the opposite of liberal, that is the most succinct way i can put it. in america there is the idea that there are two opposite ends, conseravitve and liberal, although many simplify further by making it republican v. democrat. republicans are our version of a typical conservative, although there are a significant amount of republicans that i think would disagree w/ a lot of the morality issues behind the gop lately, likes drugs, extreme christian morals and whatever. i think i woudl describe neo-cons as the more radical-christian type gop member, altho there would be many in the gop that would disagree (someone throw in disagreement, it will be fun when im ) lol, religious fanatics are people in like the bible belt that want to put christianity, islam, judaisim or whatever into our government. i think that that would usually be used as an iinsult (doh!) by more liberal people. Creationists are,strictly speaking, those that are very opposed to darwinism in a very religious way. think tanks are groups that do research or ponder complex questions here, they usually have a political leaning when they are trying to problem solve, but i would say that there are roughly as many conservative ones as there are liberal ones. lobbiests are people like the nra. they throw money at our politicians in order to try and get their attention when it comes to social issues. besides the nra i would probably include some christian groups, the aclu, the american library group (sorry can't remember the last word of their name right now) etc, etc basically anyone who has an interest in politics and can throw lots of money behind it. the kkk is the klu klux klan, they have been largely assholes. in the early days of their history, i think i may be totally wrong in my recollection right now, they were less extreme than they are now or have been right after the time of reconstruction ( the period after the civil war when the republicans, back then they were super liberals and the democrats were less against slavery [thjis bracket mayu be incorrect, ive only used them in math and times when i use too many parantheses, like now, oh the point of the bracket was to say that republicans now would protest to being called less equality oriented] bracket) anways on the KKK i thin their official statement of purpose (or whatever) is like: we will protect justice... yeah.

    Justice Black was a former member of the KKK altho he ended up to be one of the more liberal, so to speak, members of SCOTUS. Yeah, he was w/ douglas when it came to obscenity... see my sane posts in that thread, and don't let my recent ones get to u

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    Thanx!
    I think I become an Intervensionist. Looks like the US needs someone to stop that chaos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franconicus
    Libertarians?? Are they the same as Liberals?
    US libertarians is the closest thing to European liberals, but as Gawain said, the US got thier own definitions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franconicus
    Can someone help me please?
    The American right wing is so confusing to a simple European.
    What are:

    Conservatives
    Republicans
    Neo-Cons
    Religious Fanatics
    Creationists
    Think Tanks
    Lobbiests
    KKK?

    What do they stand for? What is their influence?
    You can be conservative fiscally (small, accountable gov't.) or socially (traditional, support family values and morals, etc.) Fiscal conservatives have been getting the shaft recently from Bush in his humongous budget.

    Republicans, sometimes used interchangebly with conservatives, are those who vote republican and/or support that party.

    Neo-Cons are more interventionalist in looking out for our nation's interests, the label is more in relation in how they think gov't should function to preserve America's role in the world. I'm not entirely sure of the definition, nor of how much power they have currently.

    Religious Fanatics, by which I assume you mean fundamentalists since they are not fanatic, are those who hold a socially conservative view because of their religion, and tend to support the Republicans more since they are the more socially conservative party. While their turnout may have won the last election for Bush, their influence is not that great.

    Creationists are those who believe in the literal, 7 day creation of earth, interpretation of the Bible. Not much of a force in politics, though the subject of creationism, intelligent design, etc., have become more prominent recently.

    Think tanks are organizations whom I think exist just to think about issues and provide what they view as the correct solution. No connection to the gov't, both parties (and some groups) have them.

    Lobbyists are those who are paid to talk to congressmen on behalf of their clients. Most, if not all, politically active groups have at least some.

    KKK is the Ku Klux Klan. A racist, anti-Catholic, anti-immigrant group, they supported the democrat gov'ts of the southern states after reconstruction ended. Negative (as in, you don't want them on your side) to nill influence.

    Libertarians are those for a small gov't that stays the heck out of your business, and the libertarian party is also isolationist. They support gun rights, free speech, legal drugs, etc.

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