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    The AI will do that with infantry 1 vs. 1. It is particularly assinine when it tries to pull back with a phalanx... For this reason 1vs.1 melee matchups vs. the AI are pretty easy, unless your unit is heavily outclassed. Inflict enough casualties and the AI will try to pull away--even if it was winning substantially.

    And of course, the AI doesn't use pila, so it is seriously handicapped in that regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Harvest
    The AI will do that with infantry 1 vs. 1. It is particularly assinine when it tries to pull back with a phalanx... For this reason 1vs.1 melee matchups vs. the AI are pretty easy, unless your unit is heavily outclassed. Inflict enough casualties and the AI will try to pull away--even if it was winning substantially.

    And of course, the AI doesn't use pila, so it is seriously handicapped in that regard.
    That is not what he means. It is the flowing continuous fight that cavalry can sometimes do against archers. Flowing all over them, as if their charge was never spent. It looks absoultely stunning, and is of course very effective as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraxis
    That is not what he means. It is the flowing continuous fight that cavalry can sometimes do against archers. Flowing all over them, as if their charge was never spent. It looks absoultely stunning, and is of course very effective as well.
    Oh, Ok, this was more of a moving through a formation than pulling back. I still see that.
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    interesting, has there been any research into the exact conditions involved? Does it only work for missile units, or can it be applyed to everything if done correctly? hmm, I think I'll look into this..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil SPoon
    interesting, has there been any research into the exact conditions involved? Does it only work for missile units, or can it be applyed to everything if done correctly? hmm, I think I'll look into this..
    What I have notice is that the target has to be weak, in open formation (as most archers and skirmishers are), of low mass and it has to stand its ground, or at least be quite slow in running away. The cavalry on the other hand can be pretty much whatever you have at hand.

    Thus I have never experienced this against real infantry, only archers and skirmishers, not even Peasants (could be their horde formations that ruins that).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraxis
    What I have notice is that the target has to be weak, in open formation (as most archers and skirmishers are), of low mass and it has to stand its ground, or at least be quite slow in running away. The cavalry on the other hand can be pretty much whatever you have at hand.

    Thus I have never experienced this against real infantry, only archers and skirmishers, not even Peasants (could be their horde formations that ruins that).
    That is what I've seen as well. It is a case of the cav running through the formation. To do that requires a formation that isn't too deep or too dense (a horde formation is deep, although sparse.) The cav formation seems to get enough separation on the backside to continue the charge without pause.
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