I hate England

[GonZ]

I nearly choked on my cornflakes when I read this article in the Sunday Times Review yesterday.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...848835,00.html

Talk about biting the hand that feeds...

[Geoffrey S]

And that person's accusing the English of anger?

[Byzantine Prince]

Oh please... you would feel the same way whereever you lived, be it England, Canada, the US, Brazil or any other country no matter how developed. The main argument isn't against population itself, but against the majority of any population on the planet. Show me a single "developed" country where the majority isn't "and louty, coarse, unsubtle, beady-eyed, beefy-bummed herd" and I'll show you a utopia(or the closest to).

[Tribesman]

Thats a good article , very incisive and funny .

[yesdachi]

It appears to be a review of AA Gill’s book The Angry Island, but there is no “review” it is just an exert. (Who the heck calls an exert a review?!?)

Here is a quote from AA Gill…

I write humour for a living. There’s no reason why you should have noticed. I don’t do comedy or jokes. I suppose you might call it wit, and the definition of wit is a joke that doesn’t make you laugh.

I guess humor or wit is a matter of opinion and in my opinion this guy is neither Humors or witty.

Thanks AA Gill for taking 10 minutes of my life I will never get back.

[mystic brew]

Guys, this is A A Gill that we're talking about here.

He's a massive snob. Of course he hates the plebs... He also lives to cause offence and talking points. he's very good at it.

Funny article, though.
I'd be interested in seeing how he interprets the self deprecating humour the brits are famous for. is that jewish comedy? or the comedy of the oppressor?

heh

[Aurelian]

That was funny. All sorts of interesting twists and turns. Couldn't help thinking about "Blackadder" and "Fawlty Towers" at points. The comedy in both shows is about watching someone vent their irritation at others in the funniest and most biting manner, and then watching the venter's embarrassment and mortification as the joke is turned back around onto them. The more pretentious and 'superior' the character is, the funnier it becomes. Hyacinth Bucket also comes to mind.

That bit about Englishmen still making WWII jokes reminded me of "Fawlty Tower's: The Germans" episode (if anybody remembers that)... where Basil is trying so hard not to offend his German guests about WWII, but ends up completely losing it... goosestepping around and doing Hitler impersonations.

The section about "English humour" being "the sound of the bullies" because it bludgeons groups indiscriminately is somewhat true, but that kind of English humor is typically funny in the same way that it's funny to see Archie Bunker (who was based on an English show anyway) make appalling statements about people. Part of the laugh is for the wit of the statement, part is for the inappropriateness of the joke, and another is at the idiocy/vanity/evil of the person telling the joke. It's bullying and self-deprecating at the same time.

[Lazul]

Europe sucks. Come to America, where the streets burst with gold and the women are more attractive.

*reads it*
*freezes*
*laughes so hard his loungs starts to bleed*
*looks at it again*
*collapses*



... well anyway, boring article.

[lancelot]

This guy is a scot....

=automatic disqualification of his opinion.

What is more shocking is giving him the Times to air his 'views'



Only joking Scotland...we love you really....no, really...

[Reverend Joe]

What an odd man. He seems to have a lot of anger that he redirects through wit, which by the way is supposed to be funny. That's the purpose of wit.

I must admit, though- I do not, myself, have any love of England. It's okay, but I would rather be in Hibernia, my anscestral homeland, home of whiskey and unrepressed anger.

[Duke Malcolm]

Hmph... This guy seems a fool. Plenty of the English qualities he has outlined are also Scottish, British qualities. He seems to be much obsessed with England to write such an article and completely miss that Scotland is much the same, with similar humour, anger and such.
Anyhoo, I would rather be in my homeland, home of whisk(N.B. lack of letter "e")y, and the damned finest soldiers.

[Tribesman]

What is more shocking is giving him the Times to air his 'views'

Why ?
The Times nowadays is only the Sun with big words and no tits .

[Slyspy]

Whereas I, being English, have never met any angry and bitter Scots. Oh no, wait. I haven't met a male Scot who, deep down, isn't bitter and angry. Its part of their essential character. The female of the species seems better adjusted.

[GonZ]

What is more shocking is giving him the Times to air his 'views'

Why ?
The Times nowadays is only the Sun with big words and no tits .

The times seems to have at least one tit; answering to the name of AA Gill.

[Reverend Joe]

He's not a tit so much as naive. He has engaged the English in a battle of wit- and, obviously, this is a battle no man can win.

[Fragony]

When space is provided one will take it. He hates england, so why is he still there. Screw him, enough africa for all.

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

He's a Scot?

[Alexanderofmacedon]

England has it's perks. It's better and worse then America in some ways...

[Kaiser of Arabia]

You hate England? Join the club, we have T-Shirts.

[GoreBag]

Hmph... This guy seems a fool. Plenty of the English qualities he has outlined are also Scottish, British qualities. He seems to be much obsessed with England to write such an article and completely miss that Scotland is much the same, with similar humour, anger and such.
Anyhoo, I would rather be in my homeland, home of whisk(N.B. lack of letter "e")y, and the damned finest soldiers.

That you would say something like this makes me laugh. It almost seems like English humour. And it doesn't matter whether or not "whiskey" takes an 'e'; it's a phonetic spelling.

The other day, my boss told me I wasn't cheerful enough, and that he'd received a few complaints/comments about it. The whole thing seemed to be part ridiculous and part hilarious. Anyway, later that day, an English who'd married a Scot comes into the store. We talk, I sell her some stuff, blah blah blah. Then she goes on and on about things Scottish, like everyone does, and announces that Scots are all dour people, and that she should know - she married one. It made my day.

Anyway, there's something fundamentally different about the Scottish dour demeanor and the English bully syndrome described in the 'article' (read: aimless rant).

I rather liked the piece, but it's in need of some direction.

[Axeknight]

If any of you had read AA Gill's TV Reviews or his restaurant reviews you'd know that this is his style, and it's really funny too.

At rich Chelsea, plumbers and kitchen-fitters look over the pitch at Liverpool fans and sing, “Sign on, sign on, with hope in your heart ’cos you’ll never work again.”

I support Liverpool myself, and that's bloody hilarious

[GonZ]

You hate England? Join the club, we have T-Shirts.

Who is "we" in this particular instance?

[solypsist]

I love England. I even have an apartment in London (which I never have time to visit )

people who say they "hate" a place without ever having spent time there are saying more about themselves than the subject at hand.

[Templar Knight]

I love England and the English too, It beats me how someone can 'hate' an entire nation of people, what a tit.

[InsaneApache]

Hyacinth Bucket also comes to mind.

It's pronounced Boo~kay...not Bucket and it was funny, especially the one where Onslow wins the trip on the QEII and Hyacinth thinks they've stowed-away. Her face when Daisy and Onslow are eating at the captains table was priceless. Oh and she's a scouser to boot.

To topic:

I for one would be amazed if this character liked anything English. After all he's only Scottish. hehe

edit:typo

[lancelot]

Who is "we" in this particular instance?

In his case Confused american, fascist wannabe's...

[master of the puppets]

someones in denial

[Duke Malcolm]

That you would say something like this makes me laugh. It almost seems like English humour. And it doesn't matter whether or not "whiskey" takes an 'e'; it's a phonetic spelling.

I was just making the point to the above post who highlighted its spelling with an "e".

The other day, my boss told me I wasn't cheerful enough, and that he'd received a few complaints/comments about it. The whole thing seemed to be part ridiculous and part hilarious. Anyway, later that day, an English who'd married a Scot comes into the store. We talk, I sell her some stuff, blah blah blah. Then she goes on and on about things Scottish, like everyone does, and announces that Scots are all dour people, and that she should know - she married one. It made my day.

Anyway, there's something fundamentally different about the Scottish dour demeanor and the English bully syndrome described in the 'article' (read: aimless rant).

I rather liked the piece, but it's in need of some direction.

Scots may be dour, but many still have that bully syndrome and be angry. A damn sight many of the people I know are angry much of the time, as well as dour. The jokes are generally the same, but that may be just because they migrated north of the border. We still have a similar sense of humour, but express it much more solemnly. Only the Young Scots (we have cards for discounts which can be used across Europe to prove we are Scots, it's fun) laugh out loud generally, I have rarely heard my father laugh, or my grandfather, or any teachers.

This person is the type who tries to find any vice the English have and mock them for it, even though many Scots have the same quality. The SNP objects to the House of Lords as a bastion of British dominance over Scotland. Why-- I do no know. The old Scottish Parliament was mostly Barons and Lords, and a good many lords are Scottish.

[Reverend Joe]

The SNP objects to the House of Lords as a bastion of British dominance over Scotland. Why-- I do no know. The old Scottish Parliament was mostly Barons and Lords, and a good many lords are Scottish.

It's because you're a bunch of dirty, no-good rotten Angles, still trying to conquer the rest of Roman Britain after all of these years.

(yes, I know Scotland was never Roman... it's a joke.)

[GoreBag]

Who is "we" in this particular instance?

You hate England? Join the club, we have T-Shirts.

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