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    Quote Originally Posted by bmolsson
    Just as a note, the local islamic authorities are demanding death penalty for all terrorists.

    But of course, these are no interesting news.......
    Indeed, they always demand death penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony
    Indeed, they always demand death penalty.

    In this case under the pressure from the Australians....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmolsson
    In this case under the pressure from the Australians....
    Actually most Australians would just prefer a longer jail sentence for terrrorists and less getting time of sentence reduced because it is a holiday...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio
    Actually most Australians would just prefer a longer jail sentence for terrrorists and less getting time of sentence reduced because it is a holiday...
    Not the Australians interviewed on Indonesian National Television.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmolsson
    Not the Australians interviewed on Indonesian National Television.....
    So INT interviewed the majority of Australians... or a small cross section that would make for good ratings?
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    I haven't read a full thread front to back like this in a while.

    This was a very interesting discussion. Some heated comments, and also some very respectful comments.


    I think I can summarize PanzerJager's rage. That is what I think he feels: Rage towards Islam.

    I can understand it and I too have been... well, "frustrated".

    Frustrated because American culture is in direct conflict with the more radical elements of Islam. And for many of us, it seems like radical Islam has taken over the whole of Islam. Let me provide you an example.

    I read the Al Jazeera website almost everyday. I know that I can never access to pure unadulterated information. All sources of information (newspaper, blogs, tv, radio, magazines, books, etc) act as a filter. Because of this, we all lose the truth. I know that American talk radio is very conservative. I know that American newmagazines and newspapers are gnerally very liberal. I know that most TV is liberal and that Fox news is very conservative. My point is this: If I listen to one information filter, I will be unfairly biased.

    Well I do not want to be unfairly biased against one of the world's largest religions. But some of the things I read really concern me. Al Jazeera presents items that are very very biased.

    Look at the Al Jazeera cartoons and find "planners", "choppers for food programme", "new edition of history", and others. This cartoonists frequently portrays the palestinain terrorist movement as a little boy with a sling shot! Some of his stuff is solid and insightful. My problem is that this on the front page of the biggest Islamic news organization!

    Edit: I used to scream "Sheet of Glass". I am angry and frustrated and I see no peaceful end to radical violent Islam. Just like PJ.

    2nd edit: I find that peaceful, kind, and tolerant Islams are the exception rather tehn the rule. But then those who scream loudest get heard. Why no Islamic moderates screaming endlessly against terrorists?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
    2nd edit: I find that peaceful, kind, and tolerant Islams are the exception rather tehn the rule. But then those who scream loudest get heard. Why no Islamic moderates screaming endlessly against terrorists?
    You might as well ask yourself why the majority of the Americans, moderates, seems entirely nonexistent in our political environment today.

    See?
    Quote Originally Posted by ghost908
    Not to get on anyone's bad side, but I couldn't agree more. I've always thought that also.
    Prejudice, I presume? No insults intended, but it seems most likely so.
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    Now, let's see Panzer's today religion bashing:
    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJager
    Jesus was no killer.
    Jehovah was, according not to me nor any anti-Christians, but the Old Testament. Who has more power according to the Bible?


    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJager
    Thats a major difference between Islam and Christianity.
    Much, like every religions are supposed to be, except for the Roman copycat of the Greek religion. Yet, the difference between the two is much less that any of the two vs the Eastern religions, like Hinduism, Buddhism, and Shinto. Not mentioning the seperate "New World Religions", of course.

    Brothers were killing brothers in the Crusades, I dare say.
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    Christianity may have been corrupted at times in its history but the teachings of Christ will always be a positive foundation.
    I might as well agree with this. But could a single positive foundation withstood all the negatives of theocratic corruption?
    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJager
    Islam was forged in violence, torture, and death and has continued in that pattern throughout its existence. Plain and simple. Thats no bash, its the written record as best as can be determined.
    That's bash, period. Here's my version of your phrase: Islam was forged in might, bases from older (including Christian) religions, and an attempt to establish order in the nomadic Arab society and has continued in that pattern throughout its existence. Neither plain nor simple; extremism prospers in desperation, of course. But hey, that's human nature, not Islamic nature.
    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJager
    Christianity has had its issues, but it has also had a reformation and has continued to redefine its stance on human rights and issues of morality.
    So Christians are getting more and more liberal?

    See? Liberalism saves Christianity from obsoleteness!!!

    But nobody could be as liberal as the founder himself...
    Last edited by AntiochusIII; 11-04-2005 at 04:26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio
    So INT interviewed the majority of Australians... or a small cross section that would make for good ratings?
    One thing is for sure, it's not the same majority of Australians you interviewed.....

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