Indeed, they always demand death penalty.Originally Posted by bmolsson
Indeed, they always demand death penalty.Originally Posted by bmolsson
Originally Posted by Fragony
In this case under the pressure from the Australians....![]()
Actually most Australians would just prefer a longer jail sentence for terrrorists and less getting time of sentence reduced because it is a holiday...Originally Posted by bmolsson
Not the Australians interviewed on Indonesian National Television.....Originally Posted by Papewaio
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So INT interviewed the majority of Australians... or a small cross section that would make for good ratings?Originally Posted by bmolsson
I haven't read a full thread front to back like this in a while.
This was a very interesting discussion. Some heated comments, and also some very respectful comments.
I think I can summarize PanzerJager's rage. That is what I think he feels: Rage towards Islam.
I can understand it and I too have been... well, "frustrated".
Frustrated because American culture is in direct conflict with the more radical elements of Islam. And for many of us, it seems like radical Islam has taken over the whole of Islam. Let me provide you an example.
I read the Al Jazeera website almost everyday. I know that I can never access to pure unadulterated information. All sources of information (newspaper, blogs, tv, radio, magazines, books, etc) act as a filter. Because of this, we all lose the truth. I know that American talk radio is very conservative. I know that American newmagazines and newspapers are gnerally very liberal. I know that most TV is liberal and that Fox news is very conservative. My point is this: If I listen to one information filter, I will be unfairly biased.
Well I do not want to be unfairly biased against one of the world's largest religions. But some of the things I read really concern me. Al Jazeera presents items that are very very biased.
Look at the Al Jazeera cartoons and find "planners", "choppers for food programme", "new edition of history", and others. This cartoonists frequently portrays the palestinain terrorist movement as a little boy with a sling shot! Some of his stuff is solid and insightful. My problem is that this on the front page of the biggest Islamic news organization!
Edit: I used to scream "Sheet of Glass". I am angry and frustrated and I see no peaceful end to radical violent Islam. Just like PJ.
2nd edit: I find that peaceful, kind, and tolerant Islams are the exception rather tehn the rule. But then those who scream loudest get heard. Why no Islamic moderates screaming endlessly against terrorists?
Last edited by Divinus Arma; 11-04-2005 at 03:18.
You might as well ask yourself why the majority of the Americans, moderates, seems entirely nonexistent in our political environment today.Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
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Prejudice, I presume? No insults intended, but it seems most likely so.Originally Posted by ghost908
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Now, let's see Panzer's today religion bashing:
Jehovah was, according not to me nor any anti-Christians, but the Old Testament. Who has more power according to the Bible?Originally Posted by PanzerJager
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Much, like every religions are supposed to be, except for the Roman copycat of the Greek religion. Yet, the difference between the two is much less that any of the two vs the Eastern religions, like Hinduism, Buddhism, and Shinto. Not mentioning the seperate "New World Religions", of course.Originally Posted by PanzerJager
Brothers were killing brothers in the Crusades, I dare say.
I might as well agree with this. But could a single positive foundation withstood all the negatives of theocratic corruption?Originally Posted by PanzerJager
That's bash, period. Here's my version of your phrase: Islam was forged in might, bases from older (including Christian) religions, and an attempt to establish order in the nomadic Arab society and has continued in that pattern throughout its existence. Neither plain nor simple; extremism prospers in desperation, of course. But hey, that's human nature, not Islamic nature.Originally Posted by PanzerJager
So Christians are getting more and more liberal?Originally Posted by PanzerJager
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See? Liberalism saves Christianity from obsoleteness!!!
But nobody could be as liberal as the founder himself...![]()
Last edited by AntiochusIII; 11-04-2005 at 04:26.
One thing is for sure, it's not the same majority of Australians you interviewed.....Originally Posted by Papewaio
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