RTR Light MP campaign mod discussion....

**Ignoramus** · 11-04-2005, 03:07

I would give Croton and Tarentum to the Greek Cities, and make Syracuse rebel, and of course make Messena rebel.
Dogs - Yes
Screeching Women - No
Burning Pigs - No
Onagers - No
Scythian Noble Women/Virgin Headhunters - No
Headhurlers - No
Arcani - Yes
Gladiators No
Bull Warriors - Yes
Scythian/German Axemen - Yes
Druids - Yes

**Ignoramus** · 11-04-2005, 07:28

Um, how big is this?

**menander** · 11-04-2005, 08:40

Dogs - Delete
Screeching Women - Delete
Burning Pigs - Delete
Onagers - Delete
Scythian Noble Women/Virgin Headhunters - Delete
Headhurlers - Delete
Arcani - Delete
Gladiators - Delete
Bull Warriors - Stay
Scythian/German Axemen - Stay
Druids - Delete

After playing RTR, any of these units will be a wrench. I think the two I've indicated are the only necessary ones

Edited: For the Delete/Stay thing

**The Stranger** · 11-04-2005, 10:21

Dogs delete
Screeching Women delete
Burning Pigs delete
Onagers make m very scarse
Scythian Noble Women/Virgin Headhunters delete/replace with other unit since theyre units are very poor
Headhurlers delete/replace with misile unit
Arcani delete
Gladiators only for rebels but change skin and weaponry
Bull Warriors replace
Scythian/German Axemen just make m historical/replace
Druids replace but use as officers

**The Stranger** · 11-04-2005, 10:23

oh and i have a balance layout thats been used in 3 mods, (AoVaF, NTW and Arthurian TW)

**hellenes** · 11-04-2005, 14:05

To keep the download size small the player will have to unpack the pack files (using Vercigentorixes unpacker) and then delete/remove the packs.Because the game sees first in the packs directory for vanilla units.
After that the mod will be installed.
Unfortunatley for people that support the inclusion of female warriors there are no (as far as im aware plz correct me if im wrong) decent historical skins/models.
Same for Druids and gladiators.
So these either go or stay.

Hellenes

**PROMETHEUS** · 11-04-2005, 14:27

Arcani

Pros- The Romans had a special force of assasins
- Like MTW Hashishins the story continues
- Are "fun" ninjas/nazgul *SUBJECTIVE*

Cons- The assasins were THAT ASSASINS not participating in ANY battle.
- Look like VERY stupid sadomazochists *SUBJECTIVE*
- Offer nothing more than a small unit with 2 HP on the battlefield

As you should know , Ammianus Marcellinus talks about units of Arcani who fought on the caledonian borders in operations of saboting ..... they where not assassins but instead a military unit called Arcani , so it is historically correct also their aspect is even close to what they looked like , and for this I have reference pictures for them on sculptures .....

Gladiators

Pros- Spartacus, revolt, gladiators...
- Are "fun" and cause Ive watched Russel Crow 12345 times on dvd *SUBJECTIVE*
- Can be used in slave revolutions.

Cons- Spartacus' gladiators fought in looted from the dead Romans weaponry not with Gladiator gear which is USLESS for mass field battles.
- Look VERY stupid *SUBJECTIVE*
- Offer nothing more than a small unit with 2 HP on the battlefield
- Engine limitations on changing gear and looting it from the enemy (even if we got them as gladiators at the beggining)

Actually not all Gladiators looted roman equipment , during the revolt of Florian some Legionaries had to use pickaxes to breack the gladiator armours of the Crupellari , who where so hard that resembled medieval knights , the drawback of this armourstyle was the slow motions allowed.....

**hellenes** · 11-04-2005, 14:48

Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS

operations of saboting .....

Well can any unit sabote in RTW battlefield?
If not then the Arcani are practically out of use...
And as far as gladiators are concerned I stated that is very hard to keep them as they are and the Romans reqruiting them.
But its up to the members to decide...

Hellenes

**The Stranger** · 11-04-2005, 14:36

Originally Posted by hellenes

To keep the download size small the player will have to unpack the pack files (using Vercigentorixes unpacker) and then delete/remove the packs.Because the game sees first in the packs directory for vanilla units.
After that the mod will be installed.
Unfortunatley for people that support the inclusion of female warriors there are no (as far as im aware plz correct me if im wrong) decent historical skins/models.
Same for Druids and gladiators.
So these either go or stay.

Hellenes

let the gladiators stay for rebels...replace the druids with another (elite) unit and also replace the virgins with another unit to compensate their place