Blocking the Stupid Spammer

[Redleg]

Just a question - I know some boards have the ablity to block IP addresses to prevent the type of activity that one particuler knucklehead has decided to do.

Can you block this individual from being able to register his attacks on Beriut with his flooding of new registered members?

[Dutch_guy]

Hmm it should be possible to block someone's IP adress, if that is what you

They did that with Brutal_Dictatorship AKA Horsarcher ( he had various accounts )some time ago.

So yes it could be done.

[The Stranger]

poor poor clayton, he really doesnt know what he's doing...TCMV

[Ser Clegane]

poor poor clayton, he really doesnt know what he's doing...TCMV

Clayton has nothing to do with it - refrain from making accusations if you do not know what is going on.

[Mongoose]

I'm fairly certain that what you are talking is possible. It has to be, other wise we would still be listening to the inane rants of Brutal_Dictatorship.

[Adrian II]

Never mind. Unimportant. Axed.

[Simetrical]

Just a question - I know some boards have the ablity to block IP addresses to prevent the type of activity that one particuler knucklehead has decided to do.

Can you block this individual from being able to register his attacks on Beriut with his flooding of new registered members?

If he's using a static IP, sure. If he's on dynamic dialup, you'd have to ban the whole band (including anyone else with the same ISP), and if he's using anonymous proxies you'd have to block entire lists of unrelated addresses. So it's not always that easy.

[Just A Girl]

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[Mouzafphaerre]

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ISP's can be contacted.

Proxies die like flies.
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[Just A Girl]

I really doubt he cares,
ive known him for many years, And some 1 must have aggravated him severely to provoke this reaction.

he contributed lots to the forum, And because of 1 mod who decided it was ok to be racist about french people but not Black people,
And who started to throw personal insults about his spelling and grammar. this situation has occurred.

I know of Many people "who will remain nameless," That do not agree with the Underhanded methods of this assistant mod.,

And I am shure that this Assistant mod Will cause Situations like this in the future,

As for ShambleS,
I doubt he will stop until an apology is issued by the Assistant moderator in question,

And theres no point asking me to talk to him,
because I doubt he will listen.

[Drisos]

Good post, Trisha Akechi.

And some 1 must have aggravated him severely to provoke this reaction.

Indeed. He doesn't get angry like this soon.

he contributed lots to the forum, And because of 1 mod who decided it was ok to be racist about french people but not Black people,
And who started to throw personal insults about his spelling and grammar. this situation has occurred.

AM starts with the insult. >> Insulted patron comments on it, and insults the mod in return. >> Insulted patron get's banned. While the AM gets no warning for his own insult.

As for ShambleS,
I doubt he will stop until an apology is issued by the Assistant moderator in question. And theres no point asking me to talk to him,
because I doubt he will listen.

Totally right again.

I know staff wants us to give the 'stupid spammer' no attention. But I will, as he is my friend. If I go to frontroom, start a new thread saying certain person is an 'Asshole', I will receive 1 warning point, the thread will get closed and I will have to apologize. If he does the same to a moderator(after being insulted), he gets banned. Isn't that a bit... twisted?

Anways, this post is not insulting at all. I am only saying that I disagree with how staff acted. If I do receive a warning for this, I don't mind. I'll leave then anyway.

[Beirut]

(I'm breaking my own rules here. Shmuck that I am.)

First off, I told Shambles he had to remove a joke about black people that I found, IMHO, to be racist. There were also posted complaints as well as PM complaints about the "black joke"

Shambles took it down.

I was then berated with PMs by Shambles saying there were blonde jokes and that they should have to be removed since he had to remove his. I disagreed, saying there is no connection between blonde jokes and racist black jokes. My opinion only, but it was my call to make. I received no other complaints at all about the blonde jokes.

Shambles disagreed and re-posted the racist "black joke".

I told Shambles he was fully entitled to take his case to BKS or Tosa if he disagreed with me but until one of the chief mods gave him the OK, the "black joke" would have to be remain edited out. I told him that ignoring a staff edit request was a warning point offence, even during an appeal of an edit to the senior staff.

He refused to edit because I refused to remove the blonde jokes. He said he would rather get the warning points then take orders from me. I'm not sure, but I think a mod gave him two warning points for this. The blonde jokes were removed as well by the senior staff after Shambles complained. The French army joke (which was mentioned only after several PMs about only the blonde jokes), was removed as well.

Then started a series of "you're a retard" PMs from Shambles to me. I wrote back that I appreciated his attentions, and that the spelling of his "retard" PMs was less than perfect. Was I snarky? Yes. But in the face of the ongoing "retard" PMs I remained polite. The politeness seems to have upset him and then I received a series of hacker threat PMs to myself and the Org. as a whole, PMs saying I was posted on the Org. map (posts which contained pornographic pictures), and that the Org. would be attacked by multiple false accounts and spam attacks.

These PMs, all copied and registered, were available to the senior staff for review.

The Org. is now being spammed with false accounts, pornographic pictures, and hate threads. I'm not accusing anyone and I haven't mentioned anyone's name nor will I. All I have asked is that the attacks be ignored.

[Templar Knight]

what sad bas___

Send them some flowers that will annoy them

[Productivity]

Regardless of the situation that created it, posting pornographic pictures should be a bannable offense.

[Ser Clegane]

He doesn't get angry like this soon.

But when he does he obviously loses any sense for proportion...

[The Stranger]

srry Ser Clegane, i mixed 2 cases up...it was me who complained in the thread about the joke at first...but i didnt really minded it...it didnt seemed as a very racist joke to me...but i'm used to some serious bashing so it could just be me...meanwhile the issue has become more complicated and i'm not burning my fingers on that

[Templar Knight]

No matter what happened posting stuff like that and attempting to hack is not the way to do things, it just shows your immaturity and inability to handle situations. Post a complaint in the watchtower if you fell strongly about an injustice, posting crap takes away any case you have. Although I must say Beruit is not a bad mod in any way.

[Drisos]

Beirut,

First, thank you for your detailed reply.

First off, I told Shambles he had to remove a joke about black people that I found, IMHO, to be racist. There were also posted complaints as well as PM complaints about the "black joke"

Shambles took it down.

I was then berated with PMs by Shambles saying there were blonde jokes and that they should have to be removed since he had to remove his. I disagreed, saying there is no connection between blonde jokes and racist black jokes. My opinion only, but it was my call to make. I received no other complaints at all about the blonde jokes.

Shambles disagreed and re-posted the racist "black joke".

I told Shambles he was fully entitled to take his case to BKS or Tosa if he disagreed with me but until one of the chief mods gave him the OK, the "black joke" would have to be remain edited out. I told him that ignoring a staff edit request was a warning point offence, even during an appeal of an edit to the senior staff.

He refused to edit because I refused to remove the blonde jokes. He said he would rather get the warning points then take orders from me. I'm not sure, but I think a mod gave him two warning points for this. The blonde jokes were removed as well by the senior staff after Shambles complained. The French army joke (which was mentioned only after several PMs about only the blonde jokes), was removed as well.

Sorry Beirut, but in my interpretation of forum rules(I hope that is correct) I really think you acted wrong. I agree with him that all 'jokes' should've been removed. And I can think of another patron which wouldn't delete his own misplaced 'joke' if others wouldn't have to do the same. me So I disagree with the 1st 2 warning points given to him.

Then started a series of "you're a retard" PMs from Shambles to me.

This part of it I hadn't found out, sorry. I can imagine that Shambles was angry because of the warnings point given to him. (for no good reason, at least in his eyes and mine) But this is of course wrong. For this he deserved some warnings, ok.

I wrote back that I appreciated his attentions, and that the spelling of his "retard" PMs was less than perfect. Was I snarky? Yes. But in the face of the ongoing "retard" PMs I remained polite.

This is what you've done wrong, in my opinion. Please think of a while ago, when some guy created numerous insulting and nonsense threads. Think of how Papewaio reacted to that... Ignoring it and alerting TosaInu would've been the right thing to do I think. It disappoints me to hear that you returned an insult instead of that...

The politeness seems to have upset him and then I received a series of hacker threat PMs to myself and the Org. as a whole, PMs saying I was posted on the Org. map (posts which contained pornographic pictures), and that the Org. would be attacked by multiple false accounts and spam attacks.

I thought first Shambles' account was banned and then he created new ones with which he posted such things... is that right? but he did 'warn' you with his original account, if I'm correct... I can imagine that he was very upset by your note and got angry at the entire world for a while... but of course what he did/is doing is inexcusable and now things can't be turned back anymore.

But when he does he obviously loses any sense for proportion...

I'm afraid so... I'm unpleasantly surprised by this...

Anyways sorry for my words in italics in my last post. I still feel the same way but I shouldn't have said 'if I get a warning, I'll leave'.

[Drisos]

No matter what happened posting stuff like that and attempting to hack is not the way to do things, it just shows your immaturity and inability to handle situations. Post a complaint in the watchtower if you fell strongly about an injustice, posting crap takes away any case you have. Although I must say Beruit is not a bad mod in any way.

I know. You're right. But I'm not complaining about the staff action after he 'went crazy', but their action before that.

and 'The_Stranger'... no matter if complained about it or not, racist jokes are always wrong of course.

[Beirut]

Drisos,

Thank you for your reply as well.

I'm not only not perfect, I'm far from perfect. This means my Modding is less than perfect as well. Obviously I am going to make mistakes. That's what the senior staff is there for. I not only suggested Shambles take his case to BKS and Tosa, I encouraged him to.

I've been spanked by the senior staff before and I will be again. If I make a mistake I am bound to follow their rules just like everyone else.

But to threaten the entire Org. as Shambles did (I have the registered PMs to prove it) is not only out of line, but hurts everyone here, not just me.

Off to work. Ciao.

[Drisos]

Obviously I am going to make mistakes. That's what the senior staff is there for. I not only suggested Shambles take his case to BKS and Tosa, I encouraged him to.

Only I'm afraid Shambles might have only gotten some warnings but wouldn't have been banned if you wouldn't have replied to his PM charge... But that's just an 'If...' Now senior staff had to ban him because he 'went crazy' after your pm...

I've been spanked by the senior staff before and I will be again. If I make a mistake I am bound to follow their rules just like everyone else.

As far as I know you've been a good moderator in frontroom.

But to threaten the entire Org. as Shambles did (I have the registered PMs to prove it) is not only out of line, but hurts everyone here, not just me.

I know, I know. If he'd hack the .org, I would be devastated too. I really invested a lot into STW forums and it would be a shame to see 6 years of the community's traces just disappear.

See you.

[Byzantine Prince]

This is one stupid situation to be in. It's kind of funny though.

[Kagemusha]

I dont go into commenting the reasons for Shambles rage,but this is too much from him.Hell why would someone be so otraged about a deleting a joke.This is just plain stupid.

[Taurus]

It is indeed ridiculous, and another ridiulous poster as of late is the poster who has been wanting to post in other forums but has instead just built up into a rage and outbursted foul language into the Hail! New members thread. I tried calming down the individual by informing him/her to when you will become a member etc. but he/she seemed to just ignore me and try and insult me instead. It's not that I'm bothered, just informing the community.

[Drisos]

Kagemuscha,

(Sorry for off-topic note): Great sig!!

back on topic:

Why would someone be so outraged about a deleting a joke?

I think you don't really understand. - Shambles received two warning points because he refused to edit out the 'joke', because others also made racist jokes and didn't have to edit. He got mad and sent several crap PM's to Beirut, which on his turn made an insult back to Shambles about his spelling and grammar. After all that, Shambles became so outraged. Of course to do such things is still wrong, but it explains (a bit) why he did it.

Anyways I'll miss him.

[Kagemusha]

Thanks Drisos for the compliment,the sig is open to use for anybody. I understand Drisos and i dont mean any disrespect,i know Shambles is your friend.But what i meant was that his outrage have taken too great measures.It will be very hard for many to forget about an attack on this scale.

[Templar Knight]

It is indeed ridiculous, and another ridiulous poster as of late is the poster who has been wanting to post in other forums but has instead just built up into a rage and outbursted foul language into the Hail! New members thread. I tried calming down the individual by informing him/her to when you will become a member etc. but he/she seemed to just ignore me and try and insult me instead. It's not that I'm bothered, just informing the community.

Same guy I believe

[Drisos]

Thanks Drisos for the compliment,the sig is open to use for anybody.

I understand Drisos and i dont mean any respect,i know Shambles is your friend.But what i meant was that his outrage have taken too great measures.It will be very hard for many to forget about an attack on this scale.

I know. Such outrage is unforgivable I guess. I see why he got angry but his reaction disappoints me. I never thought he'd go so far to express his anger. Plus this is another loss to the S:TW community.

[Ser Clegane]

Same guy I believe

Nah - this one seems different.

Is there something with the weather going on lately?

[Drisos]

Same guy I believe.

I don't think so. That guy in Entrance Hall said things that Shambles doesn't know about.