Quote Originally Posted by Antagonist
I've been trying to work out where all the factions are and under what circumstances they appear, and I've gotten it all figured out, with one exception: the Ostrogoths.

I have read in several places that the Ostrogoths work similarly to the Roman Rebel factions - they emerge if a Goth city or general rebels. But the Goths don't have the Loyalty thing, so how can a general rebel? I've never seen the Ostrogoths appear in any BI campaign so far (though I've never actually played as the Goths) so my question to those who have is: How/When/Why (it at all) do the Ostrogoths emerge?

Antagonist
hmm weird, in my campaign they do have rings and the ostrogoths always appeared in a gothic city...aka a rebellion