Best stw Army for 10k ?

[PaolinoPaperino]

Is there any reason as to why we couldnt play,

V1.03
7k koku
Max 4 units
yari Ashi's allowed

What would a set up like that do to make the game less enjoyable?

Honestly I cannot pretend other person to have my same opinion about the 103.. but I would suggest you to play at least 20-40 games with that rules before starting a tournament. You could see with your own eyes if there are some limitation in the stat.

I've tryed a game with 2 kensai & musks max rule, 102. The first impressions is that Cav troops are getting really hard times with so many spears.. and the YS are still the best troops for the cost/value relation(I've target a single YS charging with 3 horse archers units....and I have not ben able to kill more than 10/12% of the enemy men ).

[Just A Girl]

Ive always assumed the max 4 units rule applied for all units.
4 yari sams max, 4 muskets max, 4 nodaichi max exetera.

Was that not the case?

if not i dontunderstand why that rule was not implimented, It kind of forces you to chose Some sort of ballanced army.
Although you could chose 4 of each of the cavalry,

or if you prefered infantry yopu could have 4 nodaichi 4 yari samurai 4 of those naginata guys and 4 warrior monks,

and you can even have 4 muskets, 4 archers, 4 cav archers, and 4 arbusquiters. If you wanted a ranged army.
but your most likley to use a balanced army.

I do enjoy games where only 4 of any given unit type is allowed even in v1.02.
(i did like v1.01 more though)

Also i was hopeing some players could share some of their preivious expiriences about v1.03 and any disatvantages it may have playing with v1.02 rules.

but i think Thats a difrent topic somewhere or something.

P.s
does nodachi mean no clothes?

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[Just A Girl]

Well those yari ashigaru's kick ass.
All cav vs all yari ashi at 7k or 10k, And you know ashis will win,

Its probably true for all units vs yari ashigaru.
"obvious exception would be muskets"
16 kenzai would probably put up a good fight. and may scare the pesants away But i doubt it,
And id imagine that Warior monks May be able to scare them off the feild, But in my tests vs ai. 1 unit 60 men YA vs 1 unit 60 WM spending same amount (near enough) on both units.
And its the warrior monks who run away Usualy before you get to them,
And if the AI controlled WM dont Run away, They get thrashed.

So id imagine even if people had Implimented a no musket rule in the begining,
the yari ashi's would still have needed to be looked at,
"The guys are just to cheap."
koku for koku they are IMHO the most devistating unit in the game, "damn pesants"

Cav archers may be able to kill a small % of the YA but eventualy they will run out of arrows
"and thats going to be before the YA run out of men"

So i dont imagine for a second that YA would have been accepted by every 1 for very long any way,

P.s

i wasnt implying that any of the army's i posted which were all cav, all inf, or all ranged.were any good,
I was just trying to demonstrate that you could still get an all cav/all inf/all ranged army or a balanced army with a 4 max of any unit type rule,

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[Togakure]

... I know from experience that you can't stop all cav with only 4 spears.

What about with 4 ysams, 4 Nag cav, 4 Heavy Cav, and 4 Yari cav?

(I don't have access to the game right now so i can't give honor/wep possibilities, or calculate costs ...)

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[Just A Girl]

The point I was making is that you are helping the all cav army with a 4 max rule because 3 of the 4 infantry types are not anti-cav units. I know from experience that you can't stop all cav with only 4 spears.

So to make 4 max of any unit type Fair for the all inf army, You need the YA.
Perosnaly i like the YA less than the muskets.
atleast i know the muskets will runaway if i do things right, "low morrale"
Having said that, I also know that i use h0 muskets,
and as i practice I am geting better at defending them properly,
Now i can usualy "60% of the time" get them to stay still when their under attack,
they will still go to Unshure and the little rout flag will begin to flash in their picture,
But most of the time i only need to have my general come stand close to their new position, and they will stand ground again and start shooting.
but really im not all that good at the game,

So i guess a real veterain player could keep their muskets With h2 for the duration of the game almost 90% of the time,

personaly im willing to sacrifice my yari cav and nag cav
Just to distrupt the opponents front line,
Then hopefully as they are retaliating, my muskets get a few good kills in,
Just before all hell breaks loose.

lol.
Now i fancy a game :)

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