U.S. using phosphorus bombs in Iraq

[Adrian II]

I dont know whats worse, the blatant anti-americanism of Adrian or the blatant collaboration by Solypsist.

I'm afraid your views are in a very real sense un-American. The U.S. is a free nation, not some bigger, improved version of nazi Germany.

[Fragony]

I'm afraid your views are in a very real sense un-American. The U.S. is a free nation, not some bigger, improved version of nazi Germany.

Wow AdrianII, who stepped on the estrogen button?

[Adrian II]

Wow AdrianII, who stepped on the estrogen button?

Shouldn't you be busy plugging leaks in your Drammer around the clock?

[Fragony]

Shouldn't you be busy plugging leaks in your Drammer around the clock?

Suffer. And it isn't leaking, just some water from the //dutch alert// schroef, die schoonheid word met water gesmeerd en moest alleen even aangedraaid worden, wat ben ik toch een bofkont//. And I always find the time to your balls a little rub

[Adrian II]

And it isn't leaking, just some water from the //dutch alert// schroef, die schoonheid word met water gesmeerd en moest alleen even aangedraaid worden, wat ben ik toch een bofkont//.

Wacht maar tot je boegschroeven gaan roesten. Ach, die motorsloepjes ook...

And I always find the time to your balls a little rub

Ahhem, you mean tickle my fancy.

[Fragony]

Wacht maar tot je boegschroeven gaan roesten. Ach, die motorsloepjes ook.

De drammer dramt door, ding is onverwoestbaar ;) Het mag dan niet snel zijn maar voor 10 euro van Amersfoort naar Amsterdam! En zeilen dat is zo'n werk joh, misschien de volgende want het is natuurlijk wel veel meer 'varen'.

[Aurelian]

Ahem. Here's a longer snippet from the NC Times article describing Marines dropping WP mortar fire into Fallujah LINK:

Fighting from a distance

After pounding parts of the city for days, many Marines say the recent combat escalated into more than they had planned for, but not more than they could handle.

"It's a war," said Cpl. Nicholas Bogert, 22, of Morris, N.Y.

Bogert is a mortar team leader who directed his men to fire round after round of high explosives and white phosphorus charges into the city Friday and Saturday, never knowing what the targets were or what damage the resulting explosions caused.

"We had all this SASO (security and stabilization operations) training back home," he said. "And then this turns into a real goddamned war."

Just as his team started to eat a breakfast of packaged rations Saturday, Bogert got a fire mission over the radio.

"Stand by!" he yelled, sending Lance Cpls. Jonathan Alexander and Jonathan Millikin scrambling to their feet.

Shake 'n' bake

Joking and rousting each other like boys just seconds before, the men were instantly all business. With fellow Marines between them and their targets, a lot was at stake.

Bogert received coordinates of the target, plotted them on a map and called out the settings for the gun they call "Sarah Lee."

Millikin, 21, from Reno, Nev., and Alexander, 23, from Wetumpka, Ala., quickly made the adjustments. They are good at what they do.

"Gun up!" Millikin yelled when they finished a few seconds later, grabbing a white phosphorus round from a nearby ammo can and holding it over the tube.

"Fire!" Bogert yelled, as Millikin dropped it.

The boom kicked dust around the pit as they ran through the drill again and again, sending a mixture of burning white phosphorus and high explosives they call "shake 'n' bake" into a cluster of buildings where insurgents have been spotted all week.

They say they have never seen what they've hit, nor did they talk about it as they dusted off their breakfast and continued their hilarious routine of personal insults and name-calling...


Every day since they started firing rounds into the city, other Marines have stopped by the mortar pit to take a turn dropping mortars into the tube and firing at some unseen target.

Like tourists at some macabre carnival, some bring cameras and have other troops snap photos of their combat shot. Even the battalion surgeon fired a few Saturday, just for sport.

Everyone wants to "get some," the troops explain, some joking that Fallujah is like a live-fire range.

Some have started to think of what happens after all the guns go silent.

"I just don't want to come home and have someone calling me a baby killer," Alexander said after firing dozens of high explosive mortar rounds into the city. "That would piss me off."

Alexander said no one has told him what the charges have hit.

[yesdachi]

It seems like we have used the WP rounds as a way to smoke the enemy out and if they didn’t come out they died from suffocation. Doesn’t seem like that is what it was made for but an effective alternate use. I don’t mind. I don’t like the collateral damage (I find myself caring more for the dead pets than the civilians who harbor the terrorists) but it is not like we didn’t warn the people in Fallujah or anywhere else we fight.

It would be nice if we weren’t forced to use tactics like this, I would guess our soldiers would prefer a stand-up fight but no one will stand up and fight us! The terrorists hide behind (willing IMO) human shields hoping we will be decent and not harm the innocent (whatever) civilians.

It is not very PC but I keep seeing the terrorists as bugs and WP like a bug bomb that either kills the bugs in the walls and crawlspaces or forces them out so we can smash them with a shoe.
I have no idea what smiley to use for that comment?!?

[Tribesman]

They were fired into the air to illuminate enemy positions at night, not at enemy fighters.
Interesting Red , ever head of a strange thing called gravity .

WHere is the chemical sprayer that is spraying phosphorus over the city?.

Would that be the chemical propellant that launches the shell (except in the case of hand launched projectiles ) or would it be the chemical bursting charge that breaks up the round ?