Standing up for your beleifs

[Divinus Arma]

Well, I would appreciate if you would not put words in my mouth. Where did I say that "garbage" that I emphasized in the quote of your post?

You replied to my statement by arguing that people who seek to take away your rights are the problem. Your argument implied, whether you intended to or not, that if they did not have this belief then there would be no need to stand up for your own.

I'll defer to you. Clarify your point.

and I suggest that you chill out a bit as you obviously get so worked up that you fail to read what has been posted.

I read it all. And I'm chill. Like ice. Or... ice.

Nobody here said that he wouldn't stand up when the life of his family would actually be threatened, that's just a strawman that you have been creating in your very first post.

A direct threat? Perhaps. An indirect threat? No, I think many here have clearly stated that this is a "gray area". And you still have not answered my argument.

Standing up against a direct threat against your own life or that of your family is just that - it is not standing up for a "belief".

I am not going to argue what a belief is with you. Read this again:

Your beliefs are in conflict with the beliefs of others, so at what point do you stand up for your beliefs? You believe that you have a right to live free from fear and to pursue peaceful individual goals that better your life. There are those that believe it is there right to deprive you of all of this and to make you their slaves. Are your beliefs worth standing up for?

Edit (to respond):

Well Divinus.I have given the military oath when i entered My countrys army.To defend my country from enemies outside and inside.And i honour that oath. My country doesnt accuire my services to fight in Iraq or anywhere else. If Any army would attack my country, i would defend it and die if necessary.So there is your answer. What im saying that i dont think that this thread is about that.I think its about your beliefs more moderate way. Someone sayd somewhere long a go , that all men loose heart sometimes. There are situations in normal life that you know things happen while you know its not necessary right,but you still let them pass you without doing nothing.
For example if you have a good friend and he is cheating his wife/girlfriend who you also know but not that well as your friend.Will you tell the girlfriend or keep your moth shut? And which option is right according to your beliefs?

Good for you. Agreed on all points.