Economics of the Golden Horde: How can I get those?

**miho** · 11-15-2005, 15:06

Originally Posted by Pericles

For the Golden Horde, it might help if the faction type is changed to expansionary and then give the Horde 5,000,000 florins.

A well finaced Horde might be a bit tougher to play against...

Then they really would be a worthy adversary.

**Grey_Fox** · 11-15-2005, 15:13

It won't make much of a difference since they'll only spam peasants at you. What the AI really needs is teched up provinces.

**English assassin** · 11-15-2005, 15:49

Long story short, the player spammed as many untis as he could and managed to place them in KHazar just before the Mongols arrived.

I did this a while back, to annoy the Byzantines, although I certainly wasn't the first because I got the idea from someone else on the Org I think. I dumped loads of peasants in by sea as the English in 1229. Then I went back to attacking Spain and watched the fun.

It does work. Stuff Khazar full of cheap units and you get a superhorde. The unit mix is the same as usual though, maybe it would have been better if you stock Khazar with good troops but that sort of defeats the purpose.

**Vladimir** · 11-15-2005, 15:56

Does anyone know what the code says? The emergence of the horde seems to behave much like a revolt but still has a random element.

**miho** · 11-15-2005, 16:47

Originally Posted by Vladimir

Does anyone know what the code says? The emergence of the horde seems to behave much like a revolt but still has a random element.

I would check but I don't know where to look. It would be a good idea that they wouldn't appear in every campaign.

**Ludens** · 11-15-2005, 18:07

Originally Posted by Vladimir

Does anyone know what the code says? The emergence of the horde seems to behave much like a revolt but still has a random element.

I don't think so. As far as I know, the horde appearance is just a scripted "faction re-emergance".

Spamming peasants in Khazar does increase the Horde's numbers, but perhaps there is an upper limit. For an even greater challenge, put a military academy, master swordsmith and armourer and a cathedral + relinquiry (or grand monsque and ribat) in Khazar. The horde will now have full upgrades, making their units even thougher.

**lugh** · 11-16-2005, 16:24

I'm pretty sure there is a limit and that the numbers don't increase geometrically or anything.
IIRC the guy who threaded his attempts outnumbered the Mongols and ended up just removing all the spam units since it was a horror to organise the pre-battle.
I can't remember if it was EA, but I think the guy was newer