Official World Cup Thread

[LeftEyeNine]

Swiss players attacked assistanct coach Mehmet Ozdilek and when Alpay tried to interfere the assault he was assaulted too. That's what I just saw on TV..

These Swiss players are pity kids that pretend to be playing football..

Fatih Terim just called the referee of both matched being "corrupted".

A world cup is always enjoyable. But I don't think Switzerland will prove anything on such childish stuff. They don't deserve a single point or even a pinch of reputation after all of that. Our "Democracy tutors" are falling one by one, quite interesting

Congratulations to all going to World Cup.. You know who I imply an exclusion for..

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

Well I'd love to have seen the game, but Eurosport showed Slovakia-Spain instead - I mean what's the point?!? I thought the Turks would win to be honest.

[LeftEyeNine]

We beat them to hell.. But it all started with an imaginary penalty given to Swiss at 20th second of the game..

The team locked Swiss into their own half until it was 3 - 1. But then it was that supernatural touch of Tolga (centre back) trying to prevent the ball going into touch which put the ball into the feet of the Swiss forwards. That made 3 -2.

Tuncay - a constant fighter - knocked his 3rd header goal of the match when it was 88th minute. It was 90 + 2 when Tumer (that struck killer goals against Denmark, Ukraine and Albania) was on a 23 - 24 metres long freekick. I don't remember any more stressful moment than this one lately. The angle was perfect the spot was perfect, his left foot was perfect but he shot the ball into the wall and all our dreams faded.

Switzerland who conceded only 7 in whole qualification group matches saw 4 goals at once. But they were the schizophrenic De Bleecker and supernatural Tolga that handed the game into Swiss team at once..

All kinds of sports are games of win or lose - sometimes draw. That's the nature of it. I'd happy to congratulate the rival team after a defeat - like I did after our pathetic defeat at the hands of Latvia before Euro '04. However, I seriously doubt that Swiss players are aware of what they are doing.

[Dutch_guy]

too bad Turkey is out...

The Swiss probably won't contribute any thing meaningfull to the tournament, though I wouldn't mind if the Dutch managed to get into the same group as them ;)

But anyway, I feel with you... some time ago, IIRC WC 2002 we weren't there either...makes for a long and boring summer.

[Quid]

Swiss players attacked assistanct coach Mehmet Ozdilek and when Alpay tried to interfere the assault he was assaulted too. That's what I just saw on TV....

Obviously, we have seen two very different camera shots then...

These Swiss players are pity kids that pretend to be playing football...

Oh look who's talking...putting up posters at the airport insulting player's mothers and throwing eggs and other such things at the players as well as their bus is not at all immature then...

Fatih Terim just called the referee of both matched being "corrupted"....

Oh there comes a surprise...why can't he take a loss like a real man...

A world cup is always enjoyable. But I don't think Switzerland will prove anything on such childish stuff. They don't deserve a single point or even a pinch of reputation after all of that. Our "Democracy tutors" are falling one by one, quite interesting

And Turkey clearly deserves all the reputation for fair play and a job well done...oh...almost forgot...you should also get first prize in Human Rights...

Congratulations to all going to World Cup.. You know who I imply an exclusion for..

Generally...
I am not really certain you have watched the same match as I just did. I am glad we are in the WC and not you. I have never seen so much hatred on TV as I have just witnessed. I always knew that Turkey is hell to play in an away match (meant in a fair way) but that is just beyond the bounds of any justified rivalry.

It's easy for your coach to just blame others and accuse them of all sorts of things (good tactic) but maybe he should be looking at himself for once. The amount of bollocks he has been spreading is rather laughable at best and pure hate at worst.

I find it funny that one of your players went to the Swiss cabin to apologise for the punch up in front of the cabins and the general atrocious behaviour of the public and players alike (this coming from the horse's mouth, so to speak).

Also, I have for the first time tonight seen scenes from the Swiss Team's arrival and I would immediately be banned permanantly from this board if I only repeated a single syllable of the 'welcoming posters' that were there.

Don't get me wrong, you won today, and you did well, for the most part. You played rough and we have to get used to that first. The atmosphere and the tremendous support is almost unbeatable worldwide in Turkey. You're an emotional people which can help to miraculously lift your team. But let us be honest...you lost, you don't deserve to go to the WC. Take it as it is and do better next time. DOn't be a sore loser...because I don't like to be a winner rubbing it in...

Well played...

Quid

[LeftEyeNine]

Make sure I watched the same match, Quid.. I agree with Terim on that : "They are professional provocators"

That's another simple, over-repeated and annoying cornerstone of football but, two penalties (one given to the Swiss without *any* touch, and several we were not in this match) make so much difference..

I can't do anything much about the fans. Fair Play (which has a referee and two rival players in the logo) aims the ones on the pitch being fair first. You know assaulting an assistant coach and a player is not Fair Play.. You may well see in previous posts that I refused to defend Turkish murderers that were pretending to be fans.. My subject is the professionals of football..

Fatih Terim is known well to avoid blaming referee for all his career...Note down..He's not a cry-after-defeat guy.

Take it as it is and do better next time. DOn't be a sore loser...because I don't like to be a winner rubbing it in...

Latvia played so well and won their way to Euro '04 over us. Fair from the start all over the pitch.. No referee plays.. No press insults over coach..

I'm not a sore loser. Though I'd recommend you to rub this win in - few time to enjoy until summer, you know ... Enough said..

Do the Spaniards qualify after that draw?

[asilv]

Do the Spaniards qualify after that draw?

Yes

Qualified teams:

Africa (CAF)

• Angola
• Côte d'Ivoire
• Ghana
• Togo
• Tunisia

Asia (AFC)

• Iran
• Japan
• Korea Republic
• Saudi Arabia

Europe (UEFA)

• Croatia
• Czech Republic
• England
• France
• Germany (host)
• Italy
• Netherlands
• Poland
• Portugal
• Serbia and Montenegro
• Spain
• Switzerland
• Sweden
• Ukraine

North America, Central America & Caribbean (CONCACAF)

• Costa Rica
• Mexico
• Trinidad and Tobago
• United States

South America (CONMEBOL)

• Argentina
• Brazil
• Ecuador
• Paraguay

Oceania (OFC)

• Australia

[LeftEyeNine]

No Colombia ?!

This World Cup is getting worse and worse..

Watch out for Ivory Coast and Iran.. I predict these teams doing Senegal-2002 surprise in Germany..

[Quid]

Make sure I watched the same match, Quid.. I agree with Terim on that : "They are professional provocators"

We will have to agree to disagree then because all I could see in the past two weeks was Mr. Tarim provoking the Swiss...but never mind...neither of us will change our mind about him...

That's another simple, over-repeated and annoying cornerstone of football but, two penalties (one given to the Swiss without *any* touch, and several we were not in this match) make so much difference..

The Penalty for the Swiss WAS a handball. The only question is...did the ball go to the hand or vice versa. The referee thought the latter. End of discussion. You got a penalty too, I don't know what you're whining about. None of the other incidents were anywhere near another penalty but poor acting on the part of the Turks...

I can't do anything much about the fans. Fair Play (which has a referee and two rival players in the logo) aims the ones on the pitch being fair first. You know assaulting an assistant coach and a player is not Fair Play.. You may well see in previous posts that I refused to defend Turkish murderers that were pretending to be fans.. My subject is the professionals of football..

Right, and how many yellow cards have been handed out in both matches? This implies that neither team really played all that 'fair'. In fact, usually the defending side (i.e. Switzerland in Turkey) gets more cards. You rarely see an attacking side getting as many as the Turks did...

We are not talking about Turkish murderers. We're simply talking about players and fans alike behaving in at least sort of a civilised manner. This did NOT happen. I already apologised for whatever the Swiss may or may not have done to the Turks in Switzerland (although I doubt anything ever happened at all) but what I saw yesterday on telly was ALL the Turks and NONE of the Swiss...

Fatih Terim is known well to avoid blaming referee for all his career...Note down..He's not a cry-after-defeat guy...

He is in this one!



'Nough said!

Quid