Playable Slavs (BI)?

[Agent Smith]

Has anyone created a mod to make the Slavs playable? If not, how would one go about that?

It stinks not being able to play your heritage in BI

[Mouzafphaerre]

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professorspatula, AFAIK, has mods to let you play as anybody you wish.

As Slavs appear later in the game, making them playavle involves two steps. Unfortunately, I can only help with the first.

• Backup \bi\data\world\maps\campaign\barbarian_invasion\descr_strat.txt
• Open the original and move slavs from under nonplayable to under playable (cut and paste). Save and close.
• Backup \bi\data\text\campaign_descriptions.txt
• Open the original and add the following to the bottom:
  

  {BARBARIAN_INVASION_SLAVS_TITLE}The Slavs
  {BARBARIAN_INVASION_SLAVS_DESCR}Slavs description

  You can find a suitable text, or write one yourself instead of 'Slavs description' but it would be for eye candy and immersion. Save and exit.

You have made the Slavs playable but if you try to start a campaign with them, you will come up with an empty campaign map with nothing to do because you do not exist yet. You should either modify the starting date so that Slavs will be on the map, or modify the emergence (unless it's hardcoded like Romano-Brits) to happen at the original starting date. How to do that is beyond my knowledge.

Welcome to the ORG!
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[Seven.the.Hun]

also professorspatula has a mod in the discussion area that has unlocked factions and increased hordes

[Agent Smith]

Thanks for the welcome

Thanks for the info about the mod. I checked it out but unfortunately he left out the Slavs because he didn't feel the need to add them since they were nearly identical to the Vandals. That made me sad

So, for now, I'll stumble around the data files to see if I can find the line to mod to give them an earlier starting date...

[Mouzafphaerre]

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I've downloaded the prefessor's mod and will dissect it to see how he made the late,appearing factions playable, and then post here how you can make slavs playable efficintly.

Just out of curiousity, do you happen to have any Slavic background? We have so many patrons with it here at the ORG.
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[Mouzafphaerre]

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I took a quick look at the files and while Roman rebels and Ostros spawn on rebellion of other factions Slavs spawn on event like the RoBrits. I'm not sure but it's possibly bad news that Slavs are, like RoBrits, hardcoded.
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[Agent Smith]

My grandfather was Ukrainian. I loved playing as the Russians in MTW, and was hoping I could play as the Slavs in BI.

I was looking around, and I found a few files that I tried messing with to no avail.

In descr_sm_factions.txt, there is this:

faction slavs, spawned_on_event

I tried erasing the "spawned_on_event" which didn't work.

And in the world/maps/campaign/barbarian_invasion folder, there is the file descr_events.txt. This is in there:

event emergent_faction slavs
date 47 summer
region Locus_Barbaricum

I tried changing the date to both 0 summer and 1 summer to no avail...

Any help would be appreciated...

P.S.- The guys at CA actually already wrote a campaign description for all of the factions, so jsut making them playable is all you need short of the emergent problem I'm having with the Slavs.

[professorspatula]

I have been meaning to make the Slavs and Ostro-goths available from the start of the campaign, but haven't got around to it. They were not unique enough to be a priority. But adding them shouldn't be too difficult. You just need to make them available at the start of the campaign instead of spawned_on_event, but this involves giving them their own family line and settlement.

I got nothing better to do at the moment, so I'll have a look into getting the Slavs playable.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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I bit the bullet and installed your mod over bug fixer two minutes ago. Now let the fun begin.

Oh, please, if you can, offer the playable-from-start Slavs and Ostros as a seperate merchandise.
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[professorspatula]

Well I've managed to get the Slavs in the game, starting as a small horde. I'll upload it probably tomorrow. Ostro-Goths I still might give a miss until later.

[Agent Smith]

You rule!!! I can't wait to see it up and running.

[dclare4]

Please please please please!

We're working on a BI mod and the Slavs will be modded into another culture group that needs to be playable as well.

Thanks!
Clare (Harlechman - Zulu Total War)

[Agent Smith]

So, professorspatula, any luck with that mod upload? If it's easier, you could just psot the text changes and tell us where to go. I think I could handle that ;)

[professorspatula]

Oops, I haven't got around to uploading it yet. However, here's something you lot can edit in yourselves:

I suggest making a copy of your bi\data\world\maps\campaign\barbarian_invasion folder and renaming it to barbarian_invasion_whateveryouwanttocallthisfolder

Edit the descr_strat.txt file in your new folder:

Where it lists the playable factions, add Slavs, and remove Slavs from the unplayable list.

Now find where it says: faction slavs

Replace what it says with this:

faction	slavs, balanced henry
denari	10000

character	Faramund, named character, leader, age 42, , x 141, y 140 
traits FactionLeader 1, Warlord 1 , Despoiler 2 , GoodAttacker 1 , GoodTrader 1 , GoodTaxman 2 , Intelligent 2 , Just 1 , Pagan 1 
ancillaries mercenary_captain, overseer, scout, swordbearer
army
unit		steppe warlords				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe raiders				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe raiders				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde horse				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde horse				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde horse				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde peasants				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde peasants				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde chosen warriors				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde chosen warriors				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character	Alof, named character, heir, age 21, , x 138, y 148 
traits FactionHeir 1, GoodCommander 1 , Brave 1 , Pagan 1 
ancillaries musician, master_hunter
army
unit		steppe warlords				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe raiders				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde horse				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde horse				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character	Atech, diplomat, age 32, , x 143, y 149 
traits GoodDiplomat 2 , Pagan 1

character	Godehoc, spy, age 22, , x 147, y 140
traits GoodSpy 1 , Pagan 1

character	Vedegg, assassin, age 19, , x 142, y 147 
traits GoodAssassin 1 


character_record		Isolde, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 38, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Othelhildis, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 19, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Sunno, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 15, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Asuui, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 14, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Merovech, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 10, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Hildehoc, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 7, alive, never_a_leader

relative 	Faramund, 	Isolde,		Alof,	Sunno,	Asuui,	Merovech,	end
relative 	Alof, 	Othelhildis,		Hildehoc,	end

You might also want to find the line that starts like this:

faction_relationships 	slave, at_war_with 	huns, goths, sarmatians, vandals, franks, .....

And add slavs to the end of the line.

Save the file.

Now edit the descr_events.txt file and remove the entry that mentions the Slavs emerging on a certain year. Might not be necessary, but it's safer to remove the reference. Save the file afterwards.

That should be enough to make the Slavs playable from the Provincial campaign menu. I haven't playtested it more than a couple of turns and hence haven't balanced things. The Slavs start with a mini-horde outside a settlement they should emerge from. You might want to add more units to their army, it isn't too difficult. Basically I've given them a cut-down version of the opening Vandal army. When I update my mod I'll add their campaign maps and balance their army and family a bit more.

Hope it works for you in the meantime. Now I'm off to blast some Ur-Quan in Star Control 2 (anyone remember that game?). Have fun.

[Agent Smith]

Very good stuff. Your hard work is more than appreciated, my friend!

If I find any defects while playing I'll let you know...

[Agent Smith]

Ok, I've been trying to play around with your mod, and the campaign isn't loading for me. Can you possibly see if where I've done something wrong? I think my family tree is ok (and yes, I loaded up a family member with traits ).

faction slavs, balanced henry
denari 10000

character Faramund, named character, leader, age 42, , x 141, y 140
traits FactionLeader 1, Warlord 1 , Despoiler 2 , GoodAttacker 1 , GoodTrader 1 , GoodTaxman 2 , Intelligent 2 , Just 1 , Christian 1
ancillaries mercenary_captain, overseer, scout, swordbearer
army
unit steppe warlords exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe nobles exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe raiders exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe raiders exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde horse exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde horse exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde horse exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde horse exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde horse exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde peasants exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde peasants exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde chosen warriors exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde chosen warriors exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Alof, named character, heir, age 21, , x 138, y 148
traits FactionHeir 1, GoodCommander 1 , Brave 1 , Christian 1
ancillaries musician, master_hunter
army
unit steppe warlords exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe raiders exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe raiders exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde horse exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde horse exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde horse exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde peasants exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde peasants exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde peasants exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde peasants exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde peasants exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde chosen warriors exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde chosen warriors exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Sunno, named character, age 18, , x 139, y 140
traits GoodCommander 1 , Brave 1 , Christian 1
ancillaries musician, master_hunter
army
unit steppe warlords exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe raiders exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe raiders exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde horse exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde horse exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde horse exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde peasants exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde peasants exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde peasants exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde peasants exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde peasants exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde chosen warriors exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde chosen warriors exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Mikhail, named character, age 16, , x 143, y 140
traits GoodCommander 1 , GoodDefender 1, Brave 1 , Xenophobia 1, PublicFaith 1, InspiringSpeaker 1, RhetoricSkill 1, StrategicSkill 1, Christian 1
ancillaries musician, master_hunter
army
unit steppe warlords exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe raiders exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe raiders exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde horse exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde horse exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde horse exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde horse exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde peasants exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde peasants exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde peasants exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde peasants exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde peasants exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit steppe horde spearmen exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Atech, diplomat, age 32, , x 143, y 149
traits GoodDiplomat 2 , Christian 1

character Godehoc, spy, age 22, , x 147, y 140
traits GoodSpy 1 , Christian 1

character Vedegg, assassin, age 19, , x 142, y 147
traits GoodAssassin 1


character_record Isolde, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 38, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Othelhildis, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 22, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Asuui, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 17, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Hildehoc, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 7, alive, never_a_leader

relative Faramund, Isolde, Alof, Sunno, Asuui, Mikhail, end
relative Alof, Othelhildis, Hildehoc, end

Any help or insight would be appreciated.

[Agent Smith]

Sorry, I sued quote instead of code.

faction	slavs, balanced henry
denari	10000

character	Faramund, named character, leader, age 42, , x 141, y 140 
traits FactionLeader 1, Warlord 1 , Despoiler 2 , GoodAttacker 1 , GoodTrader 1 , GoodTaxman 2 , Intelligent 2 , Just 1 , Christian 1 
ancillaries mercenary_captain, overseer, scout, swordbearer
army
unit		steppe warlords				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe nobles				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe raiders				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe raiders				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde horse				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde horse				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde horse				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde horse				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde horse				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde peasants				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde peasants				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde chosen warriors				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde chosen warriors				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character	Alof, named character, heir, age 21, , x 138, y 148 
traits FactionHeir 1, GoodCommander 1 , Brave 1 , Christian 1 
ancillaries musician, master_hunter
army
unit		steppe warlords				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe raiders				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe raiders				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde horse				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde horse				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde horse				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde peasants				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde peasants				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde peasants				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde peasants				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde peasants				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde chosen warriors				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde chosen warriors				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character	Sunno, named character, age 18, , x 139, y 140 
traits GoodCommander 1 , Brave 1 , Christian 1 
ancillaries musician, master_hunter
army
unit		steppe warlords				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe raiders				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe raiders				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde horse				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde horse				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde horse				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde peasants				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde peasants				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde peasants				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde peasants				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde peasants				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde chosen warriors				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde chosen warriors				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character	Mikhail, named character, age 16, , x 143, y 140 
traits GoodCommander 1 , GoodDefender 1, Brave 1 , Xenophobia 1, PublicFaith 1, InspiringSpeaker 1, RhetoricSkill 1, StrategicSkill 1, Christian 1 
ancillaries musician, master_hunter
army
unit		steppe warlords				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe raiders				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe raiders				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde horse				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde horse				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde horse				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde horse				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde peasants				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde peasants				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde peasants				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde peasants				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde peasants				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		steppe horde spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character	Atech, diplomat, age 32, , x 143, y 149 
traits GoodDiplomat 2 , Christian 1

character	Godehoc, spy, age 22, , x 147, y 140 
traits GoodSpy 1 , Christian 1

character	Vedegg, assassin, age 19, , x 142, y 147 
traits GoodAssassin 1 


character_record		Isolde, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 38, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Othelhildis, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 22, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Asuui, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 17, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Hildehoc, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 7, alive, never_a_leader

relative 	Faramund, 	Isolde,		Alof,	Sunno,	Asuui,	Mikhail,	end
relative 	Alof, 	Othelhildis,		Hildehoc,	end

[Agent Smith]

Forget it. I figured it out. I tried to use a custom name for a family member and I forgot to put a space between the trait and the comma for the same person. It works now.