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    Ming the Merciless is my idol Senior Member Watchman's Avatar
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    Default Re: US admits using white phosphorous as incendiary in Fallujah

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Harvest
    Gee, maybe the terrorists will start playing nice and we can all have a group hug instead of fighting terriorsts in urban centers? (While I usually make a distinction between the insurgency and terrorism, the enemy in Fallujah were using terror attacks agains civilians on the rest of the country--they were by definition terrorists.)

    What amazes me is that people want us to tie BOTH arms behind our backs while fighting these guys. Treaties like this are not going to interest us, because they will be abused by people like Adrian for political reasons, and by terrorists for tactical ones.

    It is humorous that nations that don't have to deal with the problems directly think they should dictate our methods to us.

    And contrary to your assertion I find nothing morally repugnant about using incindiaries on these terrorists.
    Oh go away Red. What you're essentially saying is that just because the opposition uses nasty, underhanded, repulsive, barbaric and generally unwholesome tactics and methods it gives you a carte blanche to do the same.

    Which is bull, at least unless you intend to render your moral standing to their level.

    Them's the breaks. The cops don't use the same methods the mob does either, now do they ?

    The most ardent adherents of the logic of "the end justifying the means" have always been tyrants, fanatics and terrorists; one is allowed to expect better from a country claiming to be a civilized nation, plus a general upholder of human rights, freedom et all.

    You're also making the assumption you can play fast and loose with these sorts of things without lowering your ethical standards on the long term on the side; this has a serious stench of hubris about it. People act civilized partly so as to avoid getting used to acting uncivilized, if you see what I mean.
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    Default Re: US admits using white phosphorous as incendiary in Fallujah

    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman
    Oh go away Red.
    Gotta defend Red on this one. He should go away simply because you disagree with him? So much for debate. Many times (in fact most of the time) I have disagreed with him, but he has as much of a right to his opinions as you do.
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    Default Re: US admits using white phosphorous as incendiary in Fallujah

    Eh, don't take it literally. Think of it as more of a general expression of being-fed-up-with-something, along the lines of "gimme a break". Plus a rough estmate of how highly I rate his points, mind you.
    "Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."

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    Default Re: US admits using white phosphorous as incendiary in Fallujah

    Understood...
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