WW2 with different outcomes

[Watchman]

And Moscow just might've become another Stalingrad.

Another interesting question is "what if the Germans had managed their air war on Britain better ?" I understand they at some point decided to concentrate on attacking the cities and suchlike instead of the air defense network, which as a strategy backfired badly. And even if they'd managed to beat down the RAF, could they also have managed to realize the Seelöwe amphibious invasion plan - especially when you consider the fact that the Royal Navy would most likely happily have lost all of its available ships just to send as many of the transports to the bottom of the Channel as possible halfway through...? It's not like they'd have needed to get too many even medium-sized capital ships amongst the invasion fleet to deal out appalling amounts of merry hell on a very democratic (dare I say socialist?) basis...

[Papewaio]

Just remember the longer the war with the Germans went on the more likely Nuclear weapons would have been used on them.

6. They were trying but they did not have the ability to purify the uranium... neither the knowledge nor the industrial requirements (a lot of power). Also it may have been true that some of the German scientists steered the Nazis away from Nukes and others sabotaged the studying of it.

I think it would have been just deserts for an E = mc^2 weapon to have been dropped... at least to the tune of 6 million dead.

[conon394]

Papewaio

But by the same token the Nazi's could have countered a nuclear threat or attack with their potential combination of ballistic missiles and nerve gas.

[Watchman]

I hear Hitler had some serious issues about chemical weapons. Given that he served on the West Front in the Great War and had personal encounters with the things, that's probably not too surprising...

Besides, the V-2 facilities near the Baltic coast were AFAIK lost to the Soviets fairly soon after they went operational, and to my knowledge the Germans never had the resources to build more.

[Kraxis]

I hear Hitler had some serious issues about chemical weapons. Given that he served on the West Front in the Great War and had personal encounters with the things, that's probably not too surprising...

Indeed... But it wouldn't take him long to remove that quimishness if nukes were dropped on Germany. Given Hitler's love for 'revenge' in every kind of warfare he would not have sat back and thumbed his nose. And he most certainly would never have surrendered, he was just not that kind of person.

And, yeah gasmask are worth this much '-' when nerve gas is used. And it is heavy so it will seep into the shelters and subways in London. In fact it would have been much safer for people to stay home (given how closed up apartments and houses were in those days), going to the shelters would just ensure they would congregate where the gas would enter.

It would have been horrible. But then again I'm certain the Allied high command would have figured this too.

[Papewaio]

Indeed... But it wouldn't take him long to remove that quimishness if nukes were dropped on Germany. Given Hitler's love for 'revenge' in every kind of warfare he would not have sat back and thumbed his nose. And he most certainly would never have surrendered, he was just not that kind of person.

The original plan for the nukes in WWII was to drop them on Germany. A few of the scientists who helped design them did not agree with them being dropped on Japan even though they would have been ok with them being deployed on Germany.

If used against military targets they could have crippled some of the large support formations behind the front lines... or destroyed a good portion of tanks leaving the rest to fight a force of Soviet tanks.

Considering the lengths the Nazis went to discredit Einstein it would have been ironic to see a weapon based on his theories stop the Nazis in their tracks.

[Watchman]

I think the respective Allied air fleets seemed to do a decent enough job ruining the Germans' days a lot more cost-effectively. By what I've read of it, when the Germans sent something to fight the Brits and Yanks they could consider themselves lucky if only one-third of it had been shot up by enemy aircraft along the way to the front lines...

[Papewaio]

Papewaio

But by the same token the Nazi's could have countered a nuclear threat or attack with their potential combination of ballistic missiles and nerve gas.

Gas mask vs 3m of concrete... which is easier to get on in a hurry?

[Watchman]

Gas masks don't amount to too much by their lonesomes against nerve agents, you know.

[Papewaio]

Lungs are the most vulnerable vector, then eyes (moist surfaces), open wounds and then skin.

Nerve agents are easier to produce then Nuclear weapons but the Nerve Agents tend to be negated a lot easier too.