WW2 with different outcomes

**Kraxis** · 11-16-2005, 23:55

Originally Posted by Watchman

I hear Hitler had some serious issues about chemical weapons. Given that he served on the West Front in the Great War and had personal encounters with the things, that's probably not too surprising...

Indeed... But it wouldn't take him long to remove that quimishness if nukes were dropped on Germany. Given Hitler's love for 'revenge' in every kind of warfare he would not have sat back and thumbed his nose. And he most certainly would never have surrendered, he was just not that kind of person.

And, yeah gasmask are worth this much '-' when nerve gas is used. And it is heavy so it will seep into the shelters and subways in London. In fact it would have been much safer for people to stay home (given how closed up apartments and houses were in those days), going to the shelters would just ensure they would congregate where the gas would enter.

It would have been horrible. But then again I'm certain the Allied high command would have figured this too.

**Papewaio** · 11-17-2005, 00:00

Originally Posted by Kraxis

Indeed... But it wouldn't take him long to remove that quimishness if nukes were dropped on Germany. Given Hitler's love for 'revenge' in every kind of warfare he would not have sat back and thumbed his nose. And he most certainly would never have surrendered, he was just not that kind of person.

The original plan for the nukes in WWII was to drop them on Germany. A few of the scientists who helped design them did not agree with them being dropped on Japan even though they would have been ok with them being deployed on Germany.

If used against military targets they could have crippled some of the large support formations behind the front lines... or destroyed a good portion of tanks leaving the rest to fight a force of Soviet tanks.

Considering the lengths the Nazis went to discredit Einstein it would have been ironic to see a weapon based on his theories stop the Nazis in their tracks.

**Watchman** · 11-17-2005, 00:26

I think the respective Allied air fleets seemed to do a decent enough job ruining the Germans' days a lot more cost-effectively. By what I've read of it, when the Germans sent something to fight the Brits and Yanks they could consider themselves lucky if only one-third of it had been shot up by enemy aircraft along the way to the front lines...

**Lord Winter** · 11-17-2005, 03:19

Another question what would have happaned if the nazis crushed the soviets?
Would they betray japan? Invade briten again? or attack the u.s.]
Might as well put this question out there too
What if Pearl Harbor never happaned?

**Kraxis** · 11-17-2005, 03:54

Originally Posted by Watchman

I think the respective Allied air fleets seemed to do a decent enough job ruining the Germans' days a lot more cost-effectively. By what I've read of it, when the Germans sent something to fight the Brits and Yanks they could consider themselves lucky if only one-third of it had been shot up by enemy aircraft along the way to the front lines...

Not quite... But shot up could possibly equate to delayed and otherwise out of working order for the moment.

Allied flyers (Jabos) were notorious braggarts. For instance in the Mortain counterattack (which falied rather badly) the German supposedly lost 127 tanks to the allied flyers and another 50 to AT guns. Given that they only sent 118 into battle and of these about 70-75 managed to pull back we see a total of 3:1 of actual losses compared to claimed kills, and in this case it is well established that the AT guns were pretty much what halted the Germans and caused the majority of losses.

But Allied airpower became a nice little excuse after (and even during) the war for the apparent lack of results from the German armoured forces when they attacked.

**Papewaio** · 11-17-2005, 04:59

What if the Italian strength was equal to or better then Mussolini had stated?

**ajaxfetish** · 11-17-2005, 16:57

What if Mussolini was capable of winning against anyone better-equipped than the Ethiopians?

Ajax

**master of the puppets** · 11-17-2005, 17:26

if hitler had been killed by straughenburg in the wolfs den, then they would probably have diverted mre troops to the eastern front and halted the war to rebuilt there industry and continue development, if hitler was killed the nazis ddefinity have been better off.

mousalini would have never been able to, he was not loved in his country.