The Other Gitmo: Where's the Outrage?

[Soulforged]

JAG or Soulforged are more than willing to extol Cuba's greatness, I'm sure.

Oh no please don't talk me about Cuba...ahhhhhh!! No really I cannot defend Castros regime, but we'll see what happens when he's out, I expect that capitalism is not implemented, there are better ways to end with society.
Besides I've never defended Catro nor Stalin, it will be blind to do that...

[solypsist]

what vociferous discussion

[ichi]

wow, so we're not quite as bad as a brutal communist dictator.

Thanks for pointing that out.

There's lots of places in the world, some supported by the US, where conditions are extremely inhumane. I'm outraged by them. I'm also outraged that my government not only condoned torture, but relied on it.

I think the US is better than that, its what sets us apart and above the animals out there.

ichi

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I think the US is better than that, its what sets us apart and above the animals out there.

Well it seems many dissagree with you. They like you think for some rason the US should be held to a higher standard than the rest of the world. However they dont see the US as better than most but worse somehow.

[Watchman]

Well, when a democratically run country likes to make claims about "defending freedom and human rights" and so on, as the USA is wont to, there's the thing that people tend to expect it to make an effort to adhere to those lofty claims and not throw them out of the window the second it suits them. And they also tend to get quite sarcastic, at the very minimum, when overmuch liberties are taken in upholding those principles in its own actions...

"Your walk walks and your talk talks, but your walk talks more than your talk walks," right ?

Besides, where is it even theoretically possible to effect a change by affecting the public opinion - the USA or Cuba ? Quite so. Yelling at Cuba would quite simply be a waste of time and breath; yelling at the US at least might have some effect.

[bmolsson]

Well it seems many dissagree with you. They like you think for some rason the US should be held to a higher standard than the rest of the world. However they dont see the US as better than most but worse somehow.

You need to get the picture straight here on expectations.

If Cuban police beats somebody, I couldn't care less.
If Indonesian police beats somebody, I would be upset.
If US police beats somebody, I would make a nifty post in the backroom.
If Swedish Police beats somebody, I would go to Stockholm and throw rocks at the National Police head quarter.

So, I don't put my expectations on US so very high, but still above Cuba......