Re: How to hunt a panther
I always thought that the Il 2s did all their damage with cannon and rockets, so I thought we might see a few of those - perhaps there were too many other targets around!!Originally Posted by Franconicus
Well one was hit by a 100kg bomb (the one below 824). There is not enough left to identify its number
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Re: How to hunt a panther
They also carried bombs, and 100kg sounds about right for them. Of course they didn't always carry bombs, but bombs were not too shabby at blasting tanks apart. The Stuka was a pretty good tankbuster even before it gots its nice guns, but of course the ammo was very limited.I always thought that the Il 2s did all their damage with cannon and rockets, so I thought we might see a few of those - perhaps there were too many other targets around!!
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Re: How to hunt a panther
Speaking of the Ilyushins, didn't they have cannon too ? I just started wondering that a lot (or rather, all) of the holes made by the 45mm guns seem to be on the upper parts of the hulks, in the turret or upper hull section, and often in the rear or sides... Did the IL-2 mount something that big, or was that just light tanks outflanking ?
Edit: Hmm, another part of the site mentions "45mm NS-45 and Sh-45 Aircraft Guns", but the text is only available in Russian...
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Re: How to hunt a panther
No... The 45mm was never put into planes. The Il-2 carried 20, 23, 30 and 37mm cannons at various times.
The 45mm was the batallion AT gun for most Russian units at the time. It was fairly good if not spectacular.
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Re: How to hunt a panther
Yeah, I went and looked up some info on the IL. Biggest gun mounted was 37mm, apparently effective enough against the thin top armor of most tanks. Well, so much for that.
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Re: How to hunt a panther
If you found the Panthers to be oddly knocked out look at this.
http://www.battlefield.ru/index.php?...id=117&lang=en
Essentially just mines and damage to the tracks. Tough nuts to crack with guns it seems.
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Re: How to hunt a panther
Well, those heavy tank destroyers were pretty much slabs of armour on tracks, with a gun projecting forwards. Although they're technically speaking assault guns and not tank destroyers, those crazy Sturmtigers are probably pretty much the reductio ad absurdum of the idea. I understand the Ferdinands initially suffered in the hands of Soviet infantry tank-hunters (Molotov coctails are mentioned with regularity in the list), and were soon fitted with MGs for close defense to rectify things (the resulting design apparently being known as Elephant).
Well, that one super-heavy tank the Brits got to a prototype stage - Tortoise or something like that - wasn't half bad in that regard either...
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