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    USA all the way NC baby We could destroy everyone espesically the marines. Other than the israelis are badass mothas
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    I'll not disappoint any patriots here this time..

    USA IS THE BEST USA IS VERY GOOD USA JUST MAKES UP MY DREAMS USA ALL THE WAY HEY HEY I SAVED THE WORLD TODAY !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine
    I'll not disappoint any patriots here this time..

    USA IS THE BEST USA IS VERY GOOD USA JUST MAKES UP MY DREAMS USA ALL THE WAY HEY HEY I SAVED THE WORLD TODAY !!


    I agree.



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    The smallest army is the best army.

    The winner is the one who spends the least on its military and more on its social health.
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    Until someone decides they hate the US for what it is culturally and blows our buildings up.

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    USA IS THE BEST USA IS VERY GOOD USA JUST MAKES UP MY DREAMS USA ALL THE WAY HEY HEY I SAVED THE WORLD TODAY !!
    Exactly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanamori
    Until someone decides they hate the US for what it is culturally and blows our buildings up.
    In 2001, the Twin Towers fell in spite of the fat, overfed US military.

    The Pentagon itself was hit. Not much defense.


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    The winner is the one who spends the least on its military and more on its social health.
    Huh. That'd put us Finns pretty high on the ladder. Coscript armies run comparatively cheaply, you know ?
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    If the question is whos has the most pwerful armed forces the clear winner is the US. We have the most powerful military in the history of the world by a large margin.
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    We have the most powerful military in the history of the world by a large margin.
    I'm sure Johnnies would route off the battlefield when they saw the Golden Horde..

    Anyway, I want to repeat : (altogether, clap your hands)

    USA IS VERY BEST AH USA WHAT WOULD WE HAVE DONE WITHOUT YOUR MIGHTY PRESENCE, I NEED USA, USA IN MY DREAMS, HEY HEY THEY SAVE THE WORLD EVERYDAY. WHAT IF THE ALIENS ATTACKED ? OF COURSE IT WOULD BE USA SAVING THE WORLD HEY HEY HEY !!!

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    Thay ofcourse... they have the Red Wizards man!

    ... oh wait... in our world?

    USA ofcourse... most money = most firepower.
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    Now - Israel
    Their army keep fighing
    When they have to practise something they attacks Palestina
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    since im an american ill say USA ALL THE WAY! but the dead, they are the mightiest army of all. or something. its late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VAE VICTUS
    since im an american ill say USA ALL THE WAY! but the dead, they are the mightiest army of all. or something. its late.
    How soon we forget. Yesterday we are preparing for the armies of the undead, now we look at the shiny little trinket we found on the street. THE ZOMBIES ARE COMING!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachikaze
    The smallest army is the best army.

    The winner is the one who spends the least on its military and more on its social health.
    New Zealand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachikaze
    The smallest army is the best army.

    The winner is the one who spends the least on its military and more on its social health.
    Canada?

    *tacks on list of "To Bomb by 2050 if I ever become dictator of a nation that has the technology for bombers, simply because someone likes that nation" list* jk of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachikaze
    The smallest army is the best army.

    The winner is the one who spends the least on its military and more on its social health.
    Until their neighbors with the larger army come knocking on their door. They then proceed to rape their women, burn all the buildings, and murder all the men and children.

    Who needs an army!



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    Zorba, if there is something very good around here, it is generally American, haven't you learned ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine
    Zorba, if there is something very good around here, it is generally American, haven't you learned ?
    We are gods choosen what do you excepect? now al of you on your knees
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine
    Zorba, if there is something very good around here, it is generally American, haven't you learned ?
    Then call me a no-good half-Irish, half-Khazar pinko freak!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost908
    Until their neighbors with the larger army come knocking on their door. They then proceed to rape their women, burn all the buildings, and murder all the men and children.

    Who needs an army!
    There are many successful nations in no danger of invasion without large military budgets.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachikaze
    The smallest army is the best army.

    The winner is the one who spends the least on its military and more on its social health.
    Great philosophy. I'll be sure to conquer whatever country you rule first when I become instated as dictator .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachikaze
    The smallest army is the best army.

    The winner is the one who spends the least on its military and more on its social health.
    wise words!

    The question was: What is the best, not the biggest or most destructive?

    So to me it is clear that the best army is the army that fulfills its job with minimum of resources spend.

    So lets see:
    The US? Rediculous overscaled. And hardly able to fulfill their job. Still struggling hard in Iraq and still could not catsch B.L.
    China: Far to big. At least they fulfill their job: Defending the country and scaring Taiwan.

    I really think that Tachikaze is right. Some smaller armies like Switzerland are doing a very good job.

    The less you hear about an army in the new the better it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franconicus
    The less you hear about an army in the new the better it is.
    I agree on that one.
    The Chinese will probably be the strongest in a while. They have the numbers and soon they'll have the technology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franconicus
    wise words!

    The question was: What is the best, not the biggest or most destructive?

    So to me it is clear that the best army is the army that fulfills its job with minimum of resources spend.

    So lets see:
    The US? Rediculous overscaled. And hardly able to fulfill their job. Still struggling hard in Iraq and still could not catsch B.L.
    China: Far to big. At least they fulfill their job: Defending the country and scaring Taiwan.

    I really think that Tachikaze is right. Some smaller armies like Switzerland are doing a very good job.

    The less you hear about an army in the new the better it is.
    Switzerland, a nation of 8 million people, have about 300,000 men in their Army. That's 3% of their population, which is pretty large compared to alot of other nations (US has 1%, Canada has .3% aprrox).

    Another major problem with the US military is not the military, it's the most idiotic commanders since Burnside. Also, the lack of will to send in the amount of men needed for a task also hurts us, majorly.

    Occupation is not our forte by a long shot, but that's because we are overcautious when dealing with situations that may require a shoot first, ask questions later attitude. If Kofi Annan and the Gestap...er...UN weren't up our collective butt all the time maybe we'd stand a chance.

    So, i think we're agreed, the best army cannot be answered with one answer, man to man with equal numbers the U.K would kick tail,
    1 on 1 versus Irish civlians maybe.

    Of course we lost both wars.
    Due to insufficent manpower to fight England, the US, Russia, and (what was left of) France. Also, in regards to WWII, your leader (Adolf) had the military acumen of your average fly (though a fly could probably beat him), insufficient production capability (unable to produce enough of them Panzer Vs to deal with those damn Sherman Fireflys), and the fact that the troops in France, with the exception of the 2nd Panzer division (and a few others) weren't professional soldiers as much as conscripts and green, unexperienced garrison soldiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia
    Switzerland, a nation of 8 million people, have about 300,000 men in their Army. That's 3% of their population, which is pretty large compared to alot of other nations (US has 1%, Canada has .3% aprrox).
    Didn't know that. Isn't the Suisse Army more like your national guard, having only few professionals? Do they really have 300,000 men in service? Then they have an army almost as big as Germany. Didn't Saddam have some 500,000?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia
    Another major problem with the US military is not the military, it's the most idiotic commanders since Burnside. Also, the lack of will to send in the amount of men needed for a task also hurts us, majorly.
    Aren't commanders part of the military?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia
    Occupation is not our forte by a long shot, but that's because we are overcautious when dealing with situations that may require a shoot first, ask questions later attitude. If Kofi Annan and the Gestap...er...UN weren't up our collective butt all the time maybe we'd stand a chance.
    I did not mean that they intend to stay there for long. But the goals were to
    beat Saddams army and get control, right? First goal was reached very fast but they are still working on the second. And maybe they have to stay for a while to reach it.
    So my point was that the US army is not completly able to fulfil the job thatthe president (and the US people?) wants them to do.
    Regarding the UN: I know we have different oppinions on that. But we discussed that before and don't see a reason to do it here again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia
    1 on 1 versus Irish civlians maybe.
    I know they're only Iraqis... but 5 to 1 odds?

    Scots... mental.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachikaze
    The smallest army is the best army.

    The winner is the one who spends the least on its military and more on its social health.
    and then are run over by their neighbors who have been building their army for years...lol

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    VV,
    do not know where you live. But Germany is traditionally a very dangerous place, right in the middle of Europe. Nevertheless I do not have to fear any of our neighbors. Even if we would have no army at all, I doubt that the Austrians or Dutch would invade us. (Well, of course the Dutch do invade us every year, but we do the same to them, and to the Austrians, Italians, Spanish ... ).

    I think good diplomacy and being good neighbor is more important than strong military. In fact Germany had the biggest wars when it had the strongets armies.

    So small army and a moderate 'my country first' policy, some common sense and humanity - that is all it takes.

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    You never succeeded in invading the US. We sent your Mercenaries packing along with the british and you never took any land from us.” I am a little bit late in the debate, but correct me if I am wrong: Wasn’t around 7000 French soldiers along side the 7500 American soldiers in Yorktown. Wasn’t the French fleet which defeated the British fleet? The American without the French Siege Artillery would have bib problem to take the town. And without the French fleet, they would have been unable to protect their main towns.
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