best army

[master of the puppets]

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

we have superior navys to everyone and almost complete air superiority (a few give us a run for our money, but i don't know chinas airial situation) and our tanks are only rivaled by the germAns and british. the marines are the best standing infintry in the world and our spec ops are only beaten by GBs and possibly Isreals. so really in war our only problem would be the 100,000,000,000,000,000,000, bajjilion screamin chinese.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I think the cows will fly one day..

How do you assume that ?

Lets see. ME 109 vs F-15, Tiger vs A1 Abrahms , Apache and Cobra vs ? would you like to continue?

[LeftEyeNine]

With your minimal army against WW2 Germans you said, right ?

[ah_dut]

Yes, the superiority is that great lefteyenine...I hate to agree with Gawain but he is correct. Assuming the American force has sufficient ammunition I think say a division could trump a vastly superior force of WWII germans, the technology is just that superior

Saying that the USMC are the best infantarymen in the world by a mile is somewhat misleading...the royal marines aren't famous for nothing...and there are also quite a lot of marines in the US as opposed to UK

[BDC]

Lets see. ME 109 vs F-15, Tiger vs A1 Abrahms , Apache and Cobra vs ? would you like to continue?

All of those would fail against a flying cow.

Imagine flying into one at mach 2. The entire jet would just disintegrate.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Saying that the USMC are the best infantarymen in the world by a mile is somewhat misleading...the royal marines aren't famous for nothing...and there are also quite a lot of marines in the US as opposed to UK

I hate to admit it but thats true. For their size they are the best infantry in the world however. Ive known many British Marines and they are trained above our level. However just like SEALs they are a far smaller force.

[ah_dut]

I hate to admit it but thats true. For their size they are the best infantry in the world however. Ive known many British Marines and they are trained above our level. However just like SEALs they are a far smaller force.

I did mention that the royal marines are a much smaller group but britain is a much smaller country and has a smaller budget...I expect they also perform different functions but I don't know. Since USMC people seem to be deployed as normal infantary more then the Royal matrines I assumed they were less specialized.

Also, I think the USMC is about the size of the british army if my memory serves me correctly...

[Duke Malcolm]

Yes, but the British Army is damned more effective...

The British Army is the best for soldier skill, experience, training, et cetera., as well as good technology
The U.S. has excellent technology (if perhaps a little too good)
the Chinese PLA has vast numbers
Germany also has excellent soldiers, but I don't know its size and equipment, but that is probably also good

The Royal Marines, the Parachute Regiment, the Black Watch, the Guards Division, and numerous other regiments in the British Army are better than the USMC...

[Geoffrey S]

The British Army is the best for soldier skill, experience, training, et cetera., as well as good technology
The U.S. has excellent technology (if perhaps a little too good)
the Chinese PLA has vast numbers
Germany also has excellent soldiers, but I don't know its size and equipment, but that is probably also good

Don't forget the Israelis. They're under constant training, which certainly increases their effectiveness, and they've got good funding.

[Duke Malcolm]

Oh, of course, the Israelis... How could I forget, especialy with those amazing bulldozers...

[Tricon]

I still like the KISS answer.

[Haudegen]

The Austrian government has a nice overview about many nations´military. Beware, German language! ;)

http://www.bmlv.at/truppendienst/mil...countrymap.php

[Tricon]

Hey, that IS a nice site. Some facts seem outdated (1999, with some updates up to 2003) but still... thanks.

[yesdachi]

Yes, but the British Army is damned more effective...

The British Army is the best for soldier skill, experience, training, et cetera., as well as good technology...

Isn’t that what the British said before the American Revolution?

[Duke Malcolm]

That's what we've always said and its always been true.

We were ill supplied...

[The_Doctor]

And they had France and Spain. We could not focus our military strength.

If it was a straight fight, no allies or foreign support, we would have won.

[yesdachi]

Just poking fun at the comment, I know the situation.

[Adrian II]

When it comes to (self-)discipline, doggedness and intelligence of the soldiers, the endgame has to be between Israel and Vietnam. Not a competitor in sight for these two, so sorry.

[Togakure]

When it comes to (self-)discipline, doggedness and intelligence of the soldiers, the endgame has to be between Israel and Vietnam. Not a competitor in sight for these two, so sorry.

When one considers the environments and circumstances in which these two forces developed, this should come as no surprise. It is also no surprise that they tend to be overlooked in favor of dazzling technology, military wealth and immediate political influence, superiority of numbers, and the romance of popular history.

[scooter_the_shooter]

That's what we've always said and its always been true.

We were ill supplied...

Yes and our guys with no boots had tons of supplies.

The reason the US won was we wanted it more. If the brits really wanted to crush us they could have....not any more though. Now we could crush them!

[Meneldil]

Weren't France, Holland and Spain supplying the US ?

As for this topic, it get the 'most pointless thread' ever. Of course, the wealthiest and most militarised country in the world will win hand down. Of course, a 21th century army would trample Ceasar's legions and Genghis Khan's Horse Archers. You seriously don't deserve a cookie for finding that out.

The Ten Most Powerful Armed Forces on the Planet

This is study is quite a joke actually. Ten years ago, France had more nuke than China, Pakistan and India together. And I don't know about India, but from what I saw, Pakistan and China strategy is still based on endless wave of canonfodders, which is something event the french army could handle.

[Arcanum]

Umm... The german military is quite one of the smallest forces ever these days, compared to its country's size.

And that comparison of the german WW2 army and the Americans these days is bogus.
Do you compare Caesars Legions to the French Foreign Legion? No.

What you CAN compare, are the numbers+average german technology/equipment level these days, and then tell me that the Americans wouldnt be crushed. Actually, I would even believe you, seeing how much you are wasting on these unimportant things...

But WAIT! You can't even compare that, because the german technology level might have been a lot higher or lower, if we either had won, or there wouldn't even have been a war.

Bah, hopeless discussion I agree, but again:

Isn't it "Alea i/jacta est"?

[DemonArchangel]

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/.../2001rank.html

Those are GDPs.

Anyway, yesdachi, you're wrong about the GDP thing.

[LeftEyeNine]

As for this topic, it get the 'most pointless thread' ever. Of course, the wealthiest and most militarised country in the world will win hand down. Of course, a 21th century army would trample Ceasar's legions and Genghis Khan's Horse Archers. You seriously don't deserve a cookie for finding that out.

Forget my previous posts and let me add a plus under this.. I'm happy that someone could figure out this thread being pointless..

[QwertyMIDX]

The Chinese Army is the 2nd largest employer in the world, can anyone guess #1 and #3?

Also, that comparison between the US army and the WWII Germans is silly, you don't say "this is the greatest fighting force of all time because it can beat any other one," it's about its relative strength compared to those it competes with. Making such comparisons in the nuclear era is rather difficult though, and also rather pointless. In a large scale war we're all dead anyway. It would pretty cool to see the end of the world though.

[yesdachi]

I'm happy that someone could figure out this thread being pointless..

Most of the Backroom threads are pointless (but fun).


@ Demon Archangel – you are correct. I was thinking GNP. Thanks for keeping me honest. The page I originally saw the figures on is down but wiki has a chart on it. The numbers are a bit different (maybe a comparison on a different year) but similar.

[DemonArchangel]

World's Biggest Employers:

1.) Wal-Mart- 2.4 Million
2.) People's Liberation Army- 2 Million Active Duty
3.) Indian Railways- 1.6 Million

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I did mention that the royal marines are a much smaller group but britain is a much smaller country and has a smaller budget...I expect they also perform different functions but I don't know. Since USMC people seem to be deployed as normal infantary more then the Royal matrines I assumed they were less specialized.

And you would be correct. They are better trained and more specialised.

Also, I think the USMC is about the size of the british army if my memory serves me correctly...

Actually I believe its larger or equal to your whole armed forces.

The British Army is the best for soldier skill, experience, training, et cetera., as well as good technology

By that you mean just the Army and not the Royal Marines? Then your wrong. In that case its USMC. Ill put our marines against your regulars anytime.

I believe other than China the only standing army that might beat the Marines is of course the US Army.

[Strike For The South]

 
China cant beat us they do not have the air force or the navy

[LeftEyeNine]

GC,

Did I disappoint you with these words. Tell me..

I'll not disappoint any patriots here this time..

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