best army

[QwertyMIDX]

World's Biggest Employers:

1.) Wal-Mart- 2.4 Million
2.) People's Liberation Army- 2 Million Active Duty
3.) Indian Railways- 1.6 Million

The Indian Railways are the world's largest employer according to most sources, with the PLA ranking second and the NHS third.

[InsaneApache]

The reason the US won was we wanted it more. If the brits really wanted to crush us they could have....not any more though. Now we could crush them

I spat my tea out all over my monitor when I read this......I havn't had such a good belly laugh for ages. Now this is why I like Americans. They have a fantastic wit and sense of humour.

It is a matter of fact that the best trained, motivated and disciplined armed forces on the planet are British. Not English, British.

[Ianofsmeg16]

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

we have superior navys to everyone and almost complete air superiority (a few give us a run for our money, but i don't know chinas airial situation) and our tanks are only rivaled by the germAns and british. the marines are the best standing infintry in the world and our spec ops are only beaten by GBs and possibly Isreals. so really in war our only problem would be the 100,000,000,000,000,000,000, bajjilion screamin chinese.

lol good answer.

i'm still in the dark as to how the U.S training compares to britain, cos from wat i know about the British armies training, it is possibly one of the best in the world (i'm not alking about comparing the british army to the USMC, as i know they are some of the best troops anyway)

[Duke Malcolm]

By that you mean just the Army and not the Royal Marines? Then your wrong. In that case its USMC. Ill put our marines against your regulars anytime.

It would be remarkably interesting and a wholly unique experience to see the Her Majesty's 42nd Regiment of Foot, The Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment) against an equal number of US Marines and see if the Black Watch don't lose...

It is a matter of fact that the best trained, motivated and disciplined armed forces on the planet are British. Not English, British.

Thank you...

[BDC]

From what I have gathered talking to British soldiers, in joint excercises with the US the UK soldiers normally win.

Then get told off for cheating. Along the lines of "You're not allowed to hide until we have all driven past then claim you have taken the area".

[DemonArchangel]

Americans make REAL shitty anti-insurgent forces.

If you need troops that can pull off the perfect tank blitz, crush loads of conventional forces in the shortest period of time, level entire cities etc. you have to call in the Americans.

If you want anti-insurgent work, call in the British.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

It would be remarkably interesting and a wholly unique experience to see the Her Majesty's 42nd Regiment of Foot, The Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment) against an equal number of US Marines and see if the Black Watch don't lose...

That it would. But since you picked your army unit can I pick my Marine unit to oppose them? Would you like to put them up against force recon just man to man to no arty or tanks. Just the infantry?

[Duke Malcolm]

I would put them up against an equal number of infantry marines. Of any unit.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

strip them of their helocoptors and tanks and be man for man the british just have superior training and dicipline... but army to army the americans would win

my dad that used to be in the navy said that some american air-craft carriers have so little dicipline that there are rival gangs and gang wars on board ship.. (this is probably an exageration though)
also my step-dad was a tank commander and says that everytime the brits took on the americans in a 'war-game' the brits won lol

GMM

[Papewaio]

Thay ofcourse... they have the Red Wizards man!

... oh wait... in our world?

USA ofcourse... most money = most firepower.

Isn't there an elite merc force of 10,000 troops in Forgotten Realms that would beat most other armies in that world.

[Incongruous]

Its Britains finest unit.
1ST Transvestite Brigade dazzling the enemy with their pink jump suits and bright makeup. Plus their lead by the ruthless Eddie Izzard!

[doc_bean]

God's army, their air brigade has flaming swords.

[QwertyMIDX]

And according to John Milton Jesus rides in a huge chariot and hurls thunder bolts.

[bmolsson]

That it would. But since you picked your army unit can I pick my Marine unit to oppose them? Would you like to put them up against force recon just man to man to no arty or tanks. Just the infantry?

Doesn't that sound a bit silly. My dad is bigger than your dad ....

Each unit have a specific task and they can never be compared direct.

I would argue that there are today no real occupation force on earth, hence the problem for any attacker to actually keep a war won.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

I'll put Gawains Marines against the entire Norwegan army...wait...Norway doesn't have much of an army. Damnit.

[Ironside]

I'll put Gawains Marines against the entire Norwegan army...wait...Norway doesn't have much of an army. Damnit.

Lol, I'm assume that you're aware that Norway have a draft?

Although after the fall of SU the budget have decreased, I would guess that Norway could easily get 200.000 men on foot in less then a week if needed, and probably about a million within a few years (that's about 2/9 of the population, that would mean that the US would pull up 65-66 million men).

On average worse training than the US marines, NATO-standard equipment and homefront.

How big is the marines?
This could end up as a very interesting fight.

[Somebody Else]

I was talking to a Royal Marine officer the other day; got round to the US Marines. He said their officers were highly intelligent, competent at what they do etc. but the soldiers themselves were really irritating to work with - as they haven't the faintest idea to think for themselves. He said the USMC was excellent at large-scale operations, blitzing in and breaking everything in sight, but for anything requiring finesse... eh, no.

Side note. Royal Marine Commando = a unit of absolute hard-cases, and they're not even the toughest we have...

[InsaneApache]

Side note. Royal Marine Commando = a unit of absolute hard-cases, and they're not even the toughest we have...

That is so true, they're are like common soldiery...in the RM...all Marines are trained as 'Commando'....the only unit in the British Army to maintain a commando unit in peacetime.

The difference between the UK forces and USA forces always boiled down to brittle morale. When it really comes down to it the USA just can't cut the mustard. Sorry my yank freinds but when it is the real deal...we just handle it better.

The truth will out

[Duke Malcolm]

That is so true, they're are like common soldiery...in the RM...all Marines are trained as 'Commando'....the only unit in the British Army to maintain a commando unit in peacetime.

ahem, the Royal Navy... The Commandant-General of Her Majesty's Royal Marines answers to the First Sea Lord and the Admiralty

[Somebody Else]

ahem, the Royal Navy... The Commandant-General of Her Majesty's Royal Marines answers to the First Sea Lord and the Admiralty

They speak funny too. Yomping? Heads? Galley? A wet? What's wrong with tabbing, loos, canteen and a brew?

Have to say though, anyone with a selection of whiskey as good as in their mess I went to, as well as their drinking ability, is deserving of respect. 4th largest collection in the UK, 2nd in Scotland;I had a good night. The next morning though...

[Papewaio]

Best selection of whiskey... so who was #1 to #3 in the UK... at least this one is quantifiable...

[Duke Malcolm]

Have to say though, anyone with a selection of whiskey as good as in their mess I went to, as well as their drinking ability, is deserving of respect. 4th largest collection in the UK, 2nd in Scotland;I had a good night. The next morning though...

I might just be compelled to become a Royal Naval Officer instead of a Cavalry Officer now...

[Somebody Else]

Best selection of whiskey... so who was #1 to #3 in the UK... at least this one is quantifiable...

Afraid I don't know. I do know I was drinking 24 year old single malts at 1.50 a shot though.

Royal Marines : 99.99% need not apply. They never mentioned that that was alcohol content too...

[mercian billman]

I would put them up against an equal number of infantry marines. Of any unit.

The USMC has 24 infantry battalions I'm pretty sure that a few of them are capable of defeating The Black Watch.

Also something else you don't realize is that all 24 of the battalions are different from each other. When you consider each battalion has different SOPs, personnel makeup, and different leadership, there are some battalions that are better than others. For instance one battalion may be made up of brand new PVTs and PFCs while another may have a larger proportion of LCPLs who've all served one or two tours in Iraq or Afghanistan. The second battalion is obviously going to perform better, but within two years that battalion will be made up of mostly PVTs/PFCs, and the first will contain the larger proportion of LCPLs.

In the end it would come down to which battalion has more experienced and battle hardened personnel at the squad and platoon level.

[Templar Knight]

Dont forget weaponry, the M16 owns the SA80

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

That was true, but as I understand it the new version of the SA80 is a perfectly fine weapon.

[Duke Malcolm]

The USMC has 24 infantry battalions I'm pretty sure that a few of them are capable of defeating The Black Watch.

Also something else you don't realize is that all 24 of the battalions are different from each other. When you consider each battalion has different SOPs, personnel makeup, and different leadership, there are some battalions that are better than others. For instance one battalion may be made up of brand new PVTs and PFCs while another may have a larger proportion of LCPLs who've all served one or two tours in Iraq or Afghanistan. The second battalion is obviously going to perform better, but within two years that battalion will be made up of mostly PVTs/PFCs, and the first will contain the larger proportion of LCPLs.

In the end it would come down to which battalion has more experienced and battle hardened personnel at the squad and platoon level.

Yes, a few of them together perhaps, but certainly not an equal number. The Regiments of the British Army are all different also. I have no idea what your abbreviations are, but the army regiments here have different backgrounds, traditions, honours, leadership, experience, nationality.

The men of the Black Watch have probably been fighting properly since they were about 10, when they go off into their respective groups and fight each other in substantial fights between the little areas of the city. The soldiers are not only battle-hardened, but have other experience.

[Templar Knight]

That was true, but as I understand it the new version of the SA80 is a perfectly fine weapon

Most of the problems have been solved, apart from the safety catch issue

[Somebody Else]

Dont forget weaponry, the M16 owns the SA80

I'll assume that's in jest.

SA80A2 (which I'll get to play with next year) is remarkably good - doesn't jam, and is really rather accurate (they had to reformat the standard marksmanship tests, cos everyone was doing too well with it. That, and every SA80 in the British army has SUSAT as standard - barring those belonging to tankers etc.). Being shorter than the M16, it's more manoeuverable. Having a bayonet fixture also helps - something the latest M16 model doesn't have - they are still used... to rather good effect, most recently in Iraq - 5 to 1 odds, only 3 injuries...

Only problem is if you're a lefty.

[Duke Malcolm]

Are you in the Army, Somebody Else?