best army

[VAE VICTUS]

The smallest army is the best army.

The winner is the one who spends the least on its military and more on its social health.

and then are run over by their neighbors who have been building their army for years...lol

[Franconicus]

VV,
do not know where you live. But Germany is traditionally a very dangerous place, right in the middle of Europe. Nevertheless I do not have to fear any of our neighbors. Even if we would have no army at all, I doubt that the Austrians or Dutch would invade us. (Well, of course the Dutch do invade us every year, but we do the same to them, and to the Austrians, Italians, Spanish ... ).

I think good diplomacy and being good neighbor is more important than strong military. In fact Germany had the biggest wars when it had the strongets armies.

So small army and a moderate 'my country first' policy, some common sense and humanity - that is all it takes.

[Brenus]

“You never succeeded in invading the US. We sent your Mercenaries packing along with the british and you never took any land from us.” I am a little bit late in the debate, but correct me if I am wrong: Wasn’t around 7000 French soldiers along side the 7500 American soldiers in Yorktown. Wasn’t the French fleet which defeated the British fleet? The American without the French Siege Artillery would have bib problem to take the town. And without the French fleet, they would have been unable to protect their main towns.

[Uesugi Kenshin]

I'm going to have to add here that America and France weren't the only ones fighting in the war. Vermont was also at war, that's right the Republic of Vermont or whatever the state was called back then. Vermont was not only holding off New Yorkers and New Hampshirites who wanted these green hills, but Vermont soldiers were also instrumental in stoppingt Burgoyne's advance. In the battle of Bennington Green Mountain Boys led by Ethan Allen iirc reinforced Seth Green's New Hampshire militia who were desperately tryng to hold off Hessian cavalry who were out trying to steal supplies which were housed where the Bennington Monument is now.

The Battle of Bennington denied Burgoyne crucial supplies and along with less heated guerilla actions taken by Vermont militias his advance was slowed and his army drained of supplies. This led fairly directly to his defeat at Saratoga, which convinced the French that America was not a lost cause.

Bow down before Vermont, not a signatory of the Dec. of Independence or Constituion (Constitution might have been signed by VT when it entered the Union, but anyway) but savior of the Union nonetheless.

Yeah it's a bit of a stretch, but not too much of one.


Wait what was the point of this post? Oh right, it was proving that it wasn't only the French who were instrumental in assisting America in its fight for independence.

EDIT: Yes VT is now a member of the Union, but at the time it was just a bunch of smelly mountain men and probably various Indian tribes in a contested territory.

[Abokasee]

the undead....nuff said

[Incongruous]

Spartans in RTW!

[AntiochusIII]

This entire topic swiftly comes to rest in its inevitable place of a discussion about who has the biggest d*ck. That gun side discussion is the only thing worth reading here.

Violence...does not solve everything in the world, unless you're watching End of Evangelion or Troy, two very different examples.