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    Default Re: How women got more economical freedom - the biggest failure of modern politics?

    I agree with English assassin that women entering the workforce is not, in itself, a significant cause of unemployment. They have the ability to generate wealth for a society, just as men do.

    I do, however, strongly believe that it's very beneficial for families with children to have only one spouse work full-time, while the other focuses on raising the children. I recognize that sometimes this is not possible, but I suspect that families often choose to have both spouses work for more "selfish" reasons (extra income for more stuff they don't really need, unwillingness to give up a career for the good of the children, etc.)

    I'm not biased: either spouse can take either role, as far as I'm concerned. The different ways in which the sexes are wired may result in things turning out one way as opposed to another more often, but that doesn't matter. Besides, advances in technology are making it easier for people to work from the home.
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    Default Re: How women got more economical freedom - the biggest failure of modern politics?

    Sorry, but unemployment is NOT due to feminism, nor is it a recent problem.

    You've heard of the Great Depression, I presume?
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    Default Re: How women got more economical freedom - the biggest failure of modern politics?

    The black death was an exellent unemployment solver BTW

    The unemployment problems is neither new or dependant on females entering the workforce.

    And the 1 parent system or shorter working days (my preference) would probably be the doom of the current system of capitalism, known as consumerism, as the market would no longer grow, or it can possibly die because it cannot sustain enough jobs for everyone (not there yet though), although at that time it can still sustain the entire population with food and stuff.
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    Default Re: How women got more economical freedom - the biggest failure of modern politics?

    @Kommodus: I think your point of view is exactly the one I have if it comes down to opinion. But it also has a few fallacies because it's hard to implement without causing a fight over who should be at home/go away and work. But I'll perhaps have to give up the hope of finding a solution without disadvantages, it's perhaps a too complex problem.

    @Hurin_Rules: now what was the cause of the Great Depression? I think there's limits in areas where very biased modern economists claim there aren't any. Just to give an example: more computerization and introduction of robots reduces the need for employees to do the work. You can cut 10 persons working and replace them with one machine and one supervisor, etc. If that continues unemployment will also increase, which means we either need fewer people to be working, extreme increases in consumption by perhaps passing laws against saving (bye bye economical freedom), or pass laws against too long workdays, and so on.

    The reason why both men and women in every couple working is a problem, then, is because of the inhumane inofficial 12 hours workdays for the average worker. The unemployment is partly caused by it, but also has other causes. I guess the debate question was poorly chosen, as there are two debates...

    Ok, the questions are:
    1. how to reduce unemployment?
    2. how do we avoid a situation where all have an inofficial 12 hours workday?
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