Max units (here's hoping I don't get flogged)

[Dooz]

Indeed, indeed. Thank you guys. And no, I have no super-computer, although I wish I did. Just my lil' ol' Dell, but MTW requirements are pretty easy to handle.

I have a few more questions if anyone would be willing to tolerate me .

Every time a province of mine gets invaded that has more than 2 armies, they automatically get re-arranged, ruining a lot of careful planning on my part. Is there any way to keep the armies as they are?

Also, on the battlefield itself, I find it difficult to keep units in line. I don't know if it's something I'm doing wrong or if it's intended, to simulate the fact that it's difficult to keep real armies in line. For example when I move a line of, say, 4 units of spearmen, they no longer stay in line, and just basically I can't get units where I want them, how I want them. So again, just wondering if that's how it's supposed to be or if I'm doing something wrong.

[m52nickerson]

To keep units in line use alt left click. This moves any units you have selected to the new location, but keeps them in the same formation.

As for the disorder with multiple stacks, you can cycle through your reinforcement before the battle. It would also be a good idea to pick up Viking Invasion expansion.

[Dooz]

To keep units in line use alt left click. This moves any units you have selected to the new location, but keeps them in the same formation.

As for the disorder with multiple stacks, you can cycle through your reinforcement before the battle. It would also be a good idea to pick up Viking Invasion expansion.

But doesn't that keep them facing the exact same way? What if they need to turn a little bit to another side? When I CTRL+Right Click to make them face a certain direction, they all start facing different. But thank you, it's better than having them all jumbled up. I do have Viking Invasion with the newest patch installed. Does it have improvements over past versions for this issue?

There's an option for that. Untick the "tidy up army after battle" box on the slide-bar on the top and you all set.

About your second question, I'm not too sure what you're talking about.

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It seems like that I didn't get your first question clear either lol. You can use that little square button next to reinforcement button though. Just keep clicking til you get the units you desire.

I'm not sure what slider-bar on top of what just yet, but I'll try and see once I start up the game now, thanks. That sounds like just what I'm looking for. I'm afraid I don't get what you mean in your edit? Is that for mixing and matching reinforcements before the battle begins?

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Alritey, got it, thanks!

m52 has the right suggestion, but I'll make you an offer. Come online sometime into the MTW or VI lobby and look for me, I'll show you some tricks to help control and manage.

Basically its too complicated for me to do in here, better on the field if you know what I mean. I'm usually on about 2300-2400 GMT weekdays (evenings in the western US)

Same goes for anybody in here. I also welcome anybody coming on and teaching me their tricks

ichi

Wow, thanks! That'd be excellent. I'm on pacific time too so, around what time shall I look for you (not too clear on the GMT)? More importantly, how shall I look for you (as I've never tried multiplayer with the game)? I suppose your screenname will be ichi and I'll just see it in the chatroom?... possibly that simple?

[Ciaran]

To keep your units in line, use the formation button, or the number keys ("1" for a simple line, which is good for spears or "4" for a sorted double line, if you´re combining spears and archers).

Ludens:

There isn't a way to get unlimited soldiers to fight in R:TW either, but there is an option to allow reinfocing armies to approach the border of the battlefield without taking part in the battle (if this option is turned of you recieve a message saying that reinforcements are delayed).

Sure? I mean, if you let the reinforcments be AI-controlled you can have quite a couple of units on the field, though not in your control. Or will the game stop allowing AI armies at some point?

[Eternal Champion]

Also, it's better to keep spears on hold formation, and hold position. If you don't have your spears on hold position they will shuffle around constantly trying to regain formation causing them to lose rank bonus. Most people that complain about spears breaking during a charge do not have their spears on hold, hold.

This also might be what you were talking about.

[ichi]

Wow, thanks! That'd be excellent. I'm on pacific time too so, around what time shall I look for you (not too clear on the GMT)? More importantly, how shall I look for you (as I've never tried multiplayer with the game)? I suppose your screenname will be ichi and I'll just see it in the chatroom?... possibly that simple?

Any time this week, as I'm taking some time off work. Usually in the evenings for sure, post a time and I'll try to make it. I live in Utah where we are one hour ahead of Cali (and fifty years behind :) ).

Online I use my clan tag, Hunter_ichi|CoH

Looking forward to it

ichi

[ichi]

One thing I neglected to mention earlier is that you'll need to download and install the latest patch, which for MTW is v1.1, available here at the Org downloads sections. Its free and easy to install, and is necessary for us to meet onlline and improves the SP game as well.

ichi

[Ludens]

Ludens:

Sure? I mean, if you let the reinforcments be AI-controlled you can have quite a couple of units on the field, though not in your control. Or will the game stop allowing AI armies at some point?

Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I don't think there is a limit of allied armies on the battlefield. However, there is a switch called UNLIMITED_MEN_ON_BATTLEFIELD in preferences.txt, which decides whether reinforcements (armies lead by captains or reinforcements of player when he was wise enough not to let them be controled by the A.I.) appear on the edge on the battlefield ready to march in when you lose units, or you get a message "reinforcements are delayed" and they only appear later. I think that if is switch off, reinforcements will only appear when a significant part of the primary army (i.e. as much units as are in the reinforcing army) has been destroyed.

[Dooz]

Is that what it does? Awesome, that's good to know.

[antisocialmunky]

Whgy the hell would you want to command 80,000/400 units? 200 is kind of a big number...

[Puzz3D]

But doesn't that keep them facing the exact same way? What if they need to turn a little bit to another side? When I CTRL+Right Click to make them face a certain direction, they all start facing different.

Use ALT + right click to make groups face in a new direction. You can use the rotate command and then immediately give the ALT + left click movement command, and the group will rotate while marching to the new position.

[antisocialmunky]

I never order spears to attack. If hold position and hold formation are both on then they will sit there and act like a rock, not actually attacking even though engaged for a little while. They are good at defending and I use them that way, but that's just me.

[Patron]

The battle between polish and french knights and the mongol hoarde consisted of around 80000 combatants. MTW does not model such battles correctly. I think unit size should've been increased to at least 400 and allow the player to field as many units as are involved in the battle at once. The battle between the german polish versus the mongols at Legnica involved around 150000 combatants. Most major battles in the 100 years war involved between 10000 and 30000 soldiers and the saxon battle line at the battle of hastings had at least 8000 men in it's ranks, it was 10 ranks deep and every man stood shoulder to shoulder, with no spaces between.

Battles were slow and involved 2 armies facing each other and sending comparatively small groups to try and gain a strategic advantage at a time, but each army was capable of engaging any part of the enemy army they chose, not just the 1000 lined up at the front.

[m52nickerson]

The problem with battles that large is the fact there is not much stratagy to them. Yes small part would clash, but for the most part it was infantry in the center, with calvary on the flanks. What ever calvary would win against the other would them flank the enemy. The smaller number of units lets you come up with more stratagy in battle, and keeps the game fun.

[Weebeast]

Every time a province of mine gets invaded that has more than 2 armies, they automatically get re-arranged, ruining a lot of careful planning on my part. Is there any way to keep the armies as they are?

There's an option for that. Untick the "tidy up army after battle" box on the slide-bar on the top and you all set.

About your second question, I'm not too sure what you're talking about.

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It seems like that I didn't get your first question clear either lol. You can use that little square button next to reinforcement button though. Just keep clicking til you get the units you desire.

[ichi]

Also, on the battlefield itself, I find it difficult to keep units in line. I don't know if it's something I'm doing wrong or if it's intended, to simulate the fact that it's difficult to keep real armies in line. For example when I move a line of, say, 4 units of spearmen, they no longer stay in line, and just basically I can't get units where I want them, how I want them. So again, just wondering if that's how it's supposed to be or if I'm doing something wrong.

m52 has the right suggestion, but I'll make you an offer. Come online sometime into the MTW or VI lobby and look for me, I'll show you some tricks to help control and manage.

Basically its too complicated for me to do in here, better on the field if you know what I mean. I'm usually on about 2300-2400 GMT weekdays (evenings in the western US)

Same goes for anybody in here. I also welcome anybody coming on and teaching me their tricks

ichi