God hates homosexuals....and veterans

[solypsist]

November 26, 2005
1:30 pm – 2:00 pm
Lansing, MI
Delta Haven Free Methodist Church, 12406 Broadbent Rd., for funeral of Army First Lt. Justin S. Smith

Exact quote from their site::
WBC to picket funeral of Army First Lt. Justin S. Smith - at 2 p.m., Sat., Nov. 26, at Delta Haven Free Methodist dog kennel, 12406 Broadbent Rd., Lansing, Mich. Killed by IED - like the IED America used to bomb Westboro Church, in a terroristic attempt to silence our anti-gay Bible preaching.

this is a church, too
copy of their flier
We are located at 3701 W. 12th Street in Topeka, KS. Regular service time is 11:30 a.m. (Central time).

These guys are going to turn a veteran's funeral into a shameful circus.

[Lazul]

well thats just bloody stupid.

well it seams like god hates alot theese days... last time it was Sweden.

[Red Harvest]

It's Topeka, Kansas. That means "Fred Phelps" and his legions of idiots.

[English assassin]

is this made up? Not by Soly, I mean as a parody of what fundamentalist god botherers might believe?

I just can't believe its true.

[DemonArchangel]

Yup. Good old Fred Phelps.

Now if only those guys from Washburn University used a bigger bomb under the WBC....

We can all dream, can't we?

[Red Harvest]

is this made up? Not by Soly, I mean as a parody of what fundamentalist god botherers might believe?

I just can't believe its true.

Never underestimate a religious nutcase.

[Crazed Rabbit]

These people are fools and idiots, and if I were to see one of the scum holding a sign thanking God for the death of our soldiers, I would be mightily tempted towards violence. They are not Christians.

Crazed Rabbit

[Redleg]

Its a good thing that we allow free speech in this country - I am tempted to revoke their right to express themselves in such a way.

But that would be violating everything I stand for.

Oh well in a free society you have nutcases that always go to far. Someday they will cross the line - and violate the law and have to suffer the consequences of their stupidity.

[Togakure]

It is difficult to feel Compassion for those who act on such pathetic ignorance. Yet I must try. According to the basis of their own beliefs, they will have much to answer for. Hatred is not a True Christian value. I pity these, and more so--their children.

Edit: What an offensive site ... .

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

These fellows seem to have a curious obsession with improvised explosive devices.

[Reverend Joe]

Those rotten XXXXXX...

This has to be some kind of bad joke.

/edited for language

[Strike For The South]

its not a joke. Someone should take a damn 2x4 to there face. I know if I was that guys dad or brother or uncle Id be pretty pissed

[Kommodus]

this is a church, too

I've been referred to this site as well; it almost made me weep with rage and frustration. Please know that those of us who truly follow Christ completely reject the hateful ideas of these lunatics who have never known God. This kind of distorted religion angers me and my friends like nothing else.

I long for the day when sincere Christ-followers aren't painted with the same brush as these narrow-minded hypocrites, but more than that, I long for the day when those who identify themselves with God simply stop doing these things and start caring about people.

[BDC]

Their site is fairly horrific. So much ignorance...

[Kekvit Irae]

http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/n...hates-vets.pdf

*rolls eyes* Do I need to remind them that without what veterans have done for us, a good majority of people in the US would be now saluting either the Rising Sun or the Swastika?

[Ser Clegane]

Wow - these guys seem to pray to some angry Mr. Hyde version of the Christian God

Perhaps a group gay veterans stole a lollipop from Mr Phelps when he was a kid...

[BDC]

Wow - these guys seem to pray to some angry Mr. Hyde version of the Christian God

Perhaps a group gay veterans stole a lollipop from Mr Phelps when he was a kid...

Perhaps he is a gay veteran in denial...

[Tricon]

Hilarious in a sad sort of way.
Fanaticism is wrong, no matter what the original belief is.

[Adrian II]

If there were a God, I am sure he would hate idiots above all else.

[solypsist]

okay we all seem to be in agreement on this issue.

if i had a following of people who's ignorance-driven hatred supported my party, i would probably be a tad bit weary about it. how does one get away with having the reputation these guys have?my personal favorite is the image of the flag raising in iwo jima, with the text "fags" under it. they preach that veterans are trying to revoke the rights that the first amendment grants them, yet spit on the very people who gave them these rights a future, the ones that fought to preserve those rights from japan, germany, russia, korea, vietnam, italy etc etc etc.

im done rambling. in conclusion, to reiterate the main point of this post... is that if i were a conservative right about now... i would pay attention to the fact that these people support me, and whether or not i feel proud and glad they do so. if thats the case.... god help us all.

[Redleg]

okay we all seem to be in agreement on this issue.

if i had a following of people who's ignorance-driven hatred supported my party, i would probably be a tad bit weary about it. how does one get away with having the reputation these guys have?my personal favorite is the image of the flag raising in iwo jima, with the text "fags" under it. they preach that veterans are trying to revoke the rights that the first amendment grants them, yet spit on the very people who gave them these rights a future, the ones that fought to preserve those rights from japan, germany, russia, korea, vietnam, italy etc etc etc.

im done rambling. in conclusion, to reiterate the main point of this post... is that if i were a conservative right about now... i would pay attention to the fact that these people support me, and whether or not i feel proud and glad they do so. if thats the case.... god help us all.

Ask yourself the reserve question - if your a liberial - how do feel about the far left in this country?

Both sides of the isle have thier nut jobs - these guys happen to be on the far right - and unfortunely they get to much press time.

[Red Harvest]

Ask yourself the reserve question - if your a liberial - how do feel about the far left in this country?

Both sides of the isle have thier nut jobs - these guys happen to be on the far right - and unfortunely they get to much press time.

The problem I see is that there has been a very active effort by the majority of conservatives to paint everyone else as a far left liberal: independents, moderates, conservative democrats, mainstream democrats as well as run of the mill liberals. And there is the guilt by association aspect where "evil" is implied for the far left...which then everyone else gets lumped into...

There has also been a tendency to claim that the conservative movement represents Christian ideology, family values, etc. while others are all anti-religion, communist, anti-family etc. A number of Christians like myself are infuriated by that. I would counter that the stereotypcial "conservative Christian" represents not Christianity, but more of an Old Testament Judaism. I'm not kidding when I point out that religious political conservatives speak incessantly about God...but little about Jesus. Methinks they lost the thread of why it is called "Christianity."

If I thought that the conservative Christians' views actually represented those of Christianity, then I would not believe in Christ anymore.

[Ser Clegane]

these guys happen to be on the far right - and unfortunely they get to much press time.

I'm not even sure if labels like "right" or "left" apply to this sort of people - the terms that seem appropriate are not necessarily used to label the common ppolitical camps...

[solypsist]

Are you suggesting that a liberal can't criticize conservatives for not denouncing the radical conservative factions without first denouncing the radical liberal factions, and in the same breath accusing a liberal of not denouncing the radical liberal factions without you first denouncing the radical conservative factions? Cause that's kinda what it looks like.

Ask yourself the reserve question - if your a liberial - how do feel about the far left in this country?

[Papewaio]

How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?

With hypocritical mockers in feasts, they gnashed upon me with their teeth

Are there not mockers with me? and doth not mine eye continue in their provocation?

Mockers / idiots are seen as some of the worst.

[Redleg]

Are you suggesting that a liberal can't criticize conservatives for not denouncing the radical conservative factions without first denouncing the radical liberal factions, and in the same breath accusing a liberal of not denouncing the radical liberal factions without you first denouncing the radical conservative factions? Cause that's kinda what it looks like.

Nope - that is not what I stated - try again. The question was based upon this comment, that should help several of you to understand the question better. Since it seem to have alluded several of you.

i would pay attention to the fact that these people support me, and whether or not i feel proud and glad they do so. if thats the case.... god help us all.
Its not about the labels that the mainstream conservatives attempt to place on liberials - I am talking about the actual far left - you know the wacko's that plant spikes in trees, throw blood at those who were fur, etc..

However with some of your responses it seems your overly senstive to being called a far left liberial - now that is amusing in my book.


Edit: to fix bolding code

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Funny...in an ignorant sort of way...

[solypsist]

Well of course, it's all relative. None of those examples of the "crazy most vocal section of the left" even comes close to rivaling the activities of these crazy gay/veteran bashers, and I will gladly, resoundingly, denounce their hair-brained platform.

At the end of the day, this group of zealots is miniscule and insignificant, but their "God hates fags" mentality is prominent in enough Republican districts that you should be embarassed to be in any way associated with the party. The fundies vote conservative, and the fundies will be crazier than anything from the left (who aren't in the habit of voting anyway).

[GoreBag]

I can tune fanatics out, but that poster is hella funny.

[Redleg]

Well of course, it's all relative. None of those examples of the "crazy most vocal section of the left" even comes close to rivaling the activities of these crazy gay/veteran bashers, and I will gladly, resoundingly, denounce their hair-brained platform.

At the end of the day, this group of zealots is miniscule and insignificant, but their "God hates fags" mentality is prominent in enough Republican districts that you should be embarassed to be in any way associated with the party. The fundies vote conservative, and the fundies will be crazier than anything from the left (who aren't in the habit of voting anyway).

Then its a good thing I am not a Republican and only a conservative now isn't.