Padilla NOT an enemy combatant?

[Redleg]

Edit to add It was used to try two captured german agents on American Soil.
What about the other 5 ?

Not sure - I am only aware of the two. However I wonder if a search of the internet might provide the answer to that question.

[Hurin_Rules]

The 'review' that the enemy combatant matters were under may actually be the case against Padilla (which was only 'under review' because he challenged it in court). Since the Bushies have backed down and transferred him to the civilian justice system, it seems we won't have any official ruling on the constitutionality of the 'enemy combatant' opinions for some time. This was probably the intent of the Bushies in transferring the case, BTW.

[Redleg]

The 'review' that the enemy combatant matters were under may actually be the case against Padilla (which was only 'under review' because he challenged it in court). Since the Bushies have backed down and transferred him to the civilian justice system, it seems we won't have any official ruling on the constitutionality of the 'enemy combatant' opinions for some time. This was probably the intent of the Bushies in transferring the case, BTW.

I refer you to this comment of mine - by the way I believe its a combination of three of them. Minus the third one of course. ( I numbered them for ease of understanding0

1. that when reviewing the specifics of the investigation into his activities they concluded that he did not fit into the category of enemy combatant.

Or 2. it could be that they did not want to have the Supreme Court dicate to them that they were possibily violating the rights of an American Citizen and and have the court throw out any evidence that they have gathered against him.

Or 3. it could be that once again common sense is beginning to come about in the administration over how long you can hold someone without charges or trail.

Or 4. it could be simply that with the election cycle coming very close - and to maintain at least a simple majority in both houses that the adminstration is trying to clear up as much loose bagage as possible so that the republicans running for office might not have to answer why they supported the adminstration in its actions.

Or it could be a combination of all of the above.

[Tribesman]

You have confused yourself
Read through the 1942 case ruling , or seven cases thrown into one

[Redleg]

You have confused yourself
Read through the 1942 case ruling , or seven cases thrown into one

After you have the conservation with George Bush - or provide the link for the document.

However for the real answer see the responses above what you quoted.

[Redleg]

And before you try your normal sarcasm - remember the earlier statement by myself - to highlight just for you.

Again criticism of the Bush Adminstration's use of the term and how they are going about the process is valid. However to think that Bush just made up the term is incorrect.

So again criticize it all you like - since in a lot of ways it is valid criticism - but historically Bush did not coin the phrase.

[Tribesman]

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj...aw/quirin.html

however one must indeed look at the declared citizenship of the person in question
That quote Red ?
Who has Padilla declared himself citizen or subject of ????Uncle Osama ?
But seriously have you read the indictment and the "links" they are putting forward against him and his co-accused
You would think that after 3 years they would have a bit more, or even something really concrete, half of it seems to contradict the other half , and whatever hapened to the allegations of the "dirty bomb" that they have been scaring the public with all this time .
Is it going to turnout like the British Chemical attack case that turned out to be complete bollox ending up with most suspects walking free and one convicted of trying to be a nuicance(sp?) ?

Edit to add And before you try your normal sarcasm
Who me ??? never . Anyhow where have I said Bush invented it? but he is certainly milking it .

[Redleg]

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj...aw/quirin.html

however one must indeed look at the declared citizenship of the person in question
That quote Red ?

Nope beat you to it - see the above.

Who has Padilla declared himself citizen or subject of ????Uncle Osama ?
But seriously have you read the indictment and the "links" they are putting forward against him and his co-accused

Not really because I figured the Supreme Court would eventually halt the attempt concerning Padilla, since he is a citizen of the United States.

You would think that after 3 years they would have a bit more, or even something really concrete, half of it seems to contradict the other half , and whatever hapened to the allegations of the "dirty bomb" that they have been scaring the public with all this time .

You would think - but it seems that is all the evidence they might have to attempt a trail - hince you see the government backing off before their hand is called by the court.

Is it going to turnout like the British Chemical attack case that turned out to be complete bollox ending up with most suspects walking free and one convicted of trying to be a nuicance(sp?) ?

Oh I image Padilla will be charged, put on trail, convicted, and then released with time served.