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    Default Re: What to do with general with VnV like this?

    Quote Originally Posted by dgfred
    What ichi said .
    Agreed. Just make sure he NEVER commands an army, don't waste a good unit because the leader sucks.


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    Default Re: What to do with general with VnV like this?

    Quote Originally Posted by DukeofSerbia
    2. My best 9 star general have alcoholic VnV (-20 health). What means -20 health?
    Actually, he's Dead Drunk (not Alcoholic) - but anyway, he has -20 health.
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    Default Re: What to do with general with VnV like this?

    Quote Originally Posted by DukeofSerbia
    Actually, he's Dead Drunk (not Alcoholic) - but anyway, he has -20 health.
    As Mablung said, this guy is going to be very fragile in melee combat - but nine stars is too good a command rating to pass up. I'd let the other units in the roster do the real fighting - save the General for chasing off low-morale routers (wouldn't want him trashed by an elite router that suddenly rallied, would you?). That way he shouldn't encounter anything he can't handle.
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    It's pointless to give him a title, it's better to just give it to an acumen 4 peasant. Ethically, your personal relationships shouldn't interfere with something as important as the efficiceny of running your kingdom.

    When fighting against rebels you want their presence to be as inconsequential as possible, if you have no generals to spare, send this guy to boost your steppe cavalry by 1 valour point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeofSerbia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patron
    It's pointless to give him a title, it's better to just give it to an acumen 4 peasant. Ethically, your personal relationships shouldn't interfere with something as important as the efficiceny of running your kingdom.

    When fighting against rebels you want their presence to be as inconsequential as possible, if you have no generals to spare, send this guy to boost your steppe cavalry by 1 valour point.

    Damn Patron, you are a pretty cold Ruler.
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    I like to play MTW a little RPG like. Following the generals around is fun.
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    Default Re: What to do with general with VnV like this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer57
    As Mablung said, this guy is going to be very fragile in melee combat - but nine stars is too good a command rating to pass up. I'd let the other units in the roster do the real fighting - save the General for chasing off low-morale routers (wouldn't want him trashed by an elite router that suddenly rallied, would you?). That way he shouldn't encounter anything he can't handle.
    This general is Early Kraljevska Garda (aka Boyars from Novgorod). I have to use him because I was attacked by Golden Horde , I destroyed them but they reapeared... Every unit put in his stuck has at least valour 4.
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    What mod are you using to play as Serbs?
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    Default Re: What to do with general with VnV like this?

    To answer miho's question

    Quote Originally Posted by DukeofSerbia
    (Btw. it's XL mod remoded by myself).

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    Default Re: What to do with general with VnV like this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knight Templar
    To answer miho's question
    Your answer is the right one - it's XL mod remoded (drasticly) by myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m52nickerson
    Troops get +1 valour for every 2 stars of command for a general. Normally valour add +1 attack, +1 defence, and +2 morale. For valour gained from a general I do not think troops get the morale bonus. Therefore the nine star general with the good runner vice would not be that great.
    You are right. The valour of a general does not include the morale bonus. Instead, the general gives +1 morale for every star to soldiers close by (50m ?), and +1 morale for every two stars to soldiers a little farther away (100m ?). Beyond that, there is no bonus, so the -6 morale is going to hurt.

    Unless you are fighting with high morale units or veterans, morale is king and -6 is a big hit. I would place him somewhere he is unlikely to ever command an army again, and perhaps give him a title, unless there are more worthy candidates.
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    Well, since that's the case - conquer a province in a far away land and leave him in the keep. Then you can count how long he can hold out in the castle all by himself.
    Last edited by antisocialmunky; 11-27-2005 at 03:24.
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    Default Re: What to do with general with VnV like this?

    Here's my Dead Drunk general

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    Default Re: What to do with general with VnV like this?

    This 9-star general's V&V's are final proof of how booze and war don't mix!

    I would give your 'Doubtful Courage' general a chance to redeem himself: fix his unit, put him in a stack under ANOTHER general, possibly the Tzar himself (to make the redemption even more glorious) and assign him to the most dangerous place in a battle where the death toll is the highest. Let him prove that there's a man in there somewhere!
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