Results 1 to 16 of 16

Thread: Soviet forces structure

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1

    Default Re: Soviet forces structure

    Topic's covered for the greater part by the links, only one minor nitpick: the Guard units would be the first to get new equipment and they'd also have priority in support.
    When the going gets tough, the tough shit their pants

  2. #2
    Magister Vitae Senior Member Kraxis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Frederiksberg, Denmark
    Posts
    7,129

    Default Re: Soviet forces structure

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosacrux redux
    Topic's covered for the greater part by the links, only one minor nitpick: the Guard units would be the first to get new equipment and they'd also have priority in support.
    Agreed... They were more than 'just' units with a citation, more along the lines of the German Volksgrenadiers (before Hitler began forming new half-crap units called that). They are a sort of Heer elite units that also had priority to an extent.
    Last edited by Kraxis; 11-25-2005 at 14:37.
    You may not care about war, but war cares about you!


  3. #3
    Humanist Senior Member Franconicus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Trying to get to Utopia
    Posts
    3,482

    Default Re: Soviet forces structure

    What is a Volksgrenadier? I know Panzergrenadier (which means motorized infantry) and Volkssturm (which means cannon fodder).

  4. #4
    Magister Vitae Senior Member Kraxis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Frederiksberg, Denmark
    Posts
    7,129

    Default Re: Soviet forces structure

    Quote Originally Posted by Franconicus
    What is a Volksgrenadier? I know Panzergrenadier (which means motorized infantry) and Volkssturm (which means cannon fodder).
    They started out as a given name to infantrydivisions that did very good in battle. But over time Hitler thought it was good to expand their ranks, and gave the name to pretty much every division he liked to. And finally a whole structure was built up around that, so that the Volksgrenadier divisions were more like weakened infantrydivisions filled with worst of the accepted soldiers.

    The soldiers were enrolled in the army unlike the Volksturm and they had a real command structure and divisional level equipment, something the Volksturm always lacked.
    In battle these formations were meant to soak up allied or Russian attacks so that the real army units could move in and deal with them. A very wasteful strategy, but it actually worked quite well in the east.
    You may not care about war, but war cares about you!


  5. #5
    The Blade Member JimBob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Chi Town
    Posts
    588

    Default Re: Soviet forces structure

    If I remember correctly one of the Soviet Guard brigades reinforced the Stalingrad factory area at a crucial moment, when the Soviet Operation Uranus was about to be launched. Holding the city and thus the line in front of the German 6th Army city was important for Operation Uranus to be as successful as it was. That's probably one of the more important tasks where Soviet Guards brigades were involved during ww2.
    Rodmitsev's 13th Guards Division. They landed to the south and saved the rail station. The lead units took 30% casualties going up the riverbank alone. That was earlier, by Uranus 62nd was getting only the minimum it needed to not be overrun. The factories were held primarily by Batyuk's 286th Siberean Division.

    Fun facts to break out at parties.
    Sometimes I slumber on a bed of roses
    Sometimes I crash in the weeds
    One day a bowl full of cherries
    One night I'm suckin' on lemons and spittin' out the seeds
    -Roger Clyne and the Peacemakers, Lemons

  6. #6
    His higness, the Sultan Member Randarkmaan's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Lierbyen, Norway
    Posts
    443

    Default Re: Soviet forces structure

    Here's some good info on the Red Army structure and TO&E

    General info about the Red army of WWII
    http://www.bayonetstrength.150m.com/...y/red_army.htm

    Russian Rifle Battalion
    http://www.bayonetstrength.150m.com/..._battalion.htm

    Reduced Strength Rifle Battalions
    http://www.bayonetstrength.150m.com/..._battalion.htm

    The Russian Motor Rifle Battalion
    http://www.bayonetstrength.150m.com/..._battalion.htm

    The Russian Ski Battalion
    http://www.bayonetstrength.150m.com/..._battalion.htm

    The Russian Tank Battalion
    http://www.bayonetstrength.150m.com/..._battalion.htm

    Russian Divisional Organisations
    http://www.bayonetstrength.150m.com/...anisations.htm

    Red Army TO&E, info about ranks and stuff
    http://www.bayonetstrength.150m.com/.../battalion.htm

    Rifle Company TO&E
    http://www.bayonetstrength.150m.com/...%20Company.htm

    Support Company TO&E
    http://www.bayonetstrength.150m.com/..._companies.htm

    Battalion Headquarters TO&E
    http://www.bayonetstrength.150m.com/...adquarters.htm

    If you want to see the structure and TO&E of more WWII armies, here's the site's index...
    http://www.bayonetstrength.150m.com/index.htm
    "One of the nice things about looking at a bear is that you know it spends 100 per cent of every minute of every day being a bear. It doesn't strive to become a better bear. It doesn't go to sleep thinking, "I wasn't really a very good bear today". They are just 100 per cent bear, whereas human beings feel we're not 100 per cent human, that we're always letting ourselves down. We're constantly striving towards something, to some fulfilment"
    -Stephen Fry

  7. #7
    Feeding the Peanut Gallery Senior Member Redleg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Denver working on the Railroad
    Posts
    10,660

    Default Re: Soviet forces structure

    I was going to add some information - but the links provide do a decent job and saves me from having to type.

    Good info on the Guards Divisions and Stalingrad Jimbob.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

  8. #8
    Thread killer Member Rodion Romanovich's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    The dark side
    Posts
    5,383

    Default Re: Soviet forces structure

    If I remember correctly one of the Soviet Guard brigades reinforced the Stalingrad factory area at a crucial moment, when the Soviet Operation Uranus was about to be launched. Holding the city and thus the line in front of the German 6th Army city was important for Operation Uranus to be as successful as it was. That's probably one of the more important tasks where Soviet Guards brigades were involved during ww2.
    Under construction...

    "In countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia and Norway, there is no separation of church and state." - HoreTore

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO