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    Tnx Harvest.


    After watching some of the Tigers break through a stubborn federal line, a jubilant and grateful Gen. Jubal A. Early shouted, "Those damned Louisiana fellows may steal as much as they please now!"

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    *cough Burnetts 13th calvary cough* here is all you need uxplhttp://www.angelfire.com/tx/RandysTexas/
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    hehe

    http://www.angelfire.com/tx3/RandysTexas/list.html
    This wouldn't have anything to do with Texan pride now would it? :)


    If anyone has some more on the civil war you’re more then welcome to share.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upxl
    hehe

    http://www.angelfire.com/tx3/RandysTexas/list.html
    This wouldn't have anything to do with Texan pride now would it? :)


    If anyone has some more on the civil war you’re more then welcome to share.
    Of course not... SFTS is the most anti-nationalist there is around, the epitomy of non-bias.

    Anyway, Harvester in Red, the uniform really did make the soldiers stand out, but at the time it was only just becoming half-bad. The infantry still stood tall and in dense formations, it would have made little difference if they had worn olive drab, khaki or even splintered camo from what they did wear. Even less compared to the semi-dark blue of most Union units. And the Confeds simply ran out of uniforms, but at least they were sensible enough to use grey (as fights might go into forests where you could hide).
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    The big problem with red is that the enemy will see you before you see them in most instances. It also means that they are likely to know which side you are on immediately, while you might not be so sure about their identity (or might even be wrong.) Identification was a big factor in many ACW battles, particularly early ones. True open field, set-piece battles were rare. A lot of it was fields broken by trees, streams and hills as well as large tracts of timber.
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    Never understood the uniforms of the Union.
    After all those centuries of warfare you would expect them to know the colors where a bad idea.

    Anyway,
    Here's another question...
    Who would you say was the greatest officer in the civil war?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upxl
    Anyway,
    Here's another question...
    Who would you say was the greatest officer in the civil war?
    As if there was a contest... ROBERT E LEE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upxl
    Never understood the uniforms of the Union.
    After all those centuries of warfare you would expect them to know the colors where a bad idea.
    Not really. Europe had no idea, and that is what the uniforms were modeled on. Actually there was a mix of colors used: butternut, gray, blue (various shades), red, even green (Vermont, I think.) Early in the war both sides had many state and local militia regiments in the "other side's color." Caused a lot of trouble with friendly fire as well as lack of fire, as did the similar flags (no, not the later rebel battle flag; the original Stars and Bars.) And rebels often used captured blue jackets and pants.

    Anyway,
    Here's another question...
    Who would you say was the greatest officer in the civil war?
    Depends on category. Lee was probably the best battlefield full army commander. Nathan Bedford Forest was the best small army commander (wasn't really suited stylistically for full corps level command.)

    Grant was strategically/logistically probably the strongest. Sheer determination and bold action were probably his greatest strengths. He could fail repeatedly, and still keep working the problem until he solved it. He had great composure when things seemed to be out of control around him. I didn't appreciate him early on, but after studying his Vicksburg campaign, Fort Donelson, and what he did at Chattanooga, I've gained great respect for him despite the many mistakes he made. The man was not afraid to make a mistake...unlike McClellan or Joe Johnston.

    What Lee did for Southern survival, Grant did for eventual Northern victory. Both were masters of those they faced, until the only thing left was for them to face one another.
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