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    Urwendur Ûrîbêl Senior Member Mouzafphaerre's Avatar
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    Lightbulb Yet another idea...

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    Not many will like this but some certainly will. Just off the top of my head.

    How about setting the Tavern (Frontroom and Backroom) so that new posts won't increase postcounts, as it is here at the Watchtower?
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    I like that idea. Sets the focus on help people and posting info about the games, which is the main purpose of this forum. But what does post count really matter?
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    good idea
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    no.

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    Default Re: Yet another idea...

    Good idea.

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    That's a good idea. I wish my postcount wasn't so high.

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    I don't like it. Its not like post count mean alot on this forum. So who cares if you have 10 or 1000? It is a least a way to know about how much of your life has been spent on here.
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    Default Re: Yet another idea...

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    It would be a precaution against who think postcount matters.
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    I agree. It's a good idea. Much better than the karma one.
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    I quite like the idea; perhaps it'd mean newcomers can tell who is more experienced when it comes to TW as then only the actual TW parts of the site update the postcount.
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    I wonder would it be good to get rid of the whole postcount?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kagemusha
    I wonder would it be good to get rid of the whole postcount?
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    Nope. It feels missing. I know it from other fora.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kagemusha
    I wonder would it be good to get rid of the whole postcount?
    No, without your post count, you almost feel....naked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
    That's a good idea. I wish my postcount wasn't so high.
    It can be reset for only 10 goldpieces.
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    hmmm.. Tosa how come you're back at 44? resetting your own postcount? ('daar zit een luchtje aan')

    anyways... this is a great idea I think. it's the only way to prevent frontroom spam I guess. I hope this idea is used.

    oh but what will we do with 'one word story' etc? everybody posting +0 there when this idea is used?

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    I like the idea,
    I also like the no post count idea,

    then again I also think Good and bad post counts are a good idea.

    2 post counts under your name 1 good 1 bad

    The bad post count could be attached to these Report bad post buttons,
    This would probably mean more work for the mods though.
    But it would mean you can easily see the % of bad posts a member makes.

    Maby it would help people Think before they post
    Last edited by Just A Girl; 11-27-2005 at 15:33.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    It can be reset for only 10 goldpieces.
    I don't know what the hell a goldpiece is.




    On a side note could you imagine the spammers going from 4,000 to a post count of like 14 after this is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just A Girl
    I like the idea,
    I also like the no post count idea,

    then again I also think Good and bad post counts are a good idea.

    2 post counts under your name 1 good 1 bad

    The bad post count could be attached to these Report bad post buttons,
    This would probably mean more work for the mods though.
    But it would mean you can easily see the % of bad posts a member makes.

    Maby it would help people Think before they post
    I like this idea, as for no postcount...

    The frontroom will die out in no-time.

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    I don't think that removing the postcount for the Tavern would really solve any problems.

    As long as there is a postcount and people have the feeling that high postcount is equivalent to some kind of higher status you will have spam.

    If you remove postcount from the Front- and Backroom, people who are keen on having a high postcount will try to get it elsewhere and will clutter the TW-related threads ... not sure if this is something we desire.

    If you want to get rid of spamming to increase postcount, then remove the postcount altogether.

    Quote Originally Posted by Just A Girl
    then again I also think Good and bad post counts are a good idea.

    2 post counts under your name 1 good 1 bad

    The bad post count could be attached to these Report bad post buttons,
    This would probably mean more work for the mods though.
    But it would mean you can easily see the % of bad posts a member makes.
    Interesting approach, but not really feasible IMHO. Who will decide what qualifies as a "bad" post?
    Other patrons by reporting? I think it's not very hard to imagine the "fun" that would lead to...
    The moderators? I don't assume that a lot of patrons would appreciate being micro-managed by the moderators in such a way (also, we already have enough complaints about perceived bias - I don't think that having moderators rate posts would be a got move)

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    Smile Re: Yet another idea...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ser Clegane
    If you remove postcount from the Front- and Backroom, people who are keen on having a high postcount will try to get it elsewhere and will clutter the TW-related threads ... not sure if this is something we desire.
    I beg to disagree. Moderate as strictly as eg. Beirut, BKS or kekvit do (or Gregoshi used to do); deliver warnings and other stuff more generously to spammers and don't reset them and you won't have any spam anywhere.

    Postcount itself isn't evil. It's sort of a part of your identity, along with the join date, as long as the two are proportional.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre
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    I beg to disagree. Moderate as strictly as eg. Beirut, BKS or kekvit do (or Gregoshi used to do); deliver warnings and other stuff more generously to spammers and don't reset them and you won't have any spam anywhere.

    Postcount itself isn't evil. It's sort of a part of your identity, along with the join date, as long as the two are proportional.


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    I agree with Mouzafphaerre. If they spam in other forums you could reset their postcount as penalty..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
    On a side note could you imagine the spammers going from 4,000 to a post count of like 14 after this is done.
    I have the feeling my post count would be cut in half....
    Quote Originally Posted by Ranika
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    bad bad bad bad idea...it comes straight from the devil...bad bad bad bad devil...bad bad bad Mouzafphaerre

    you know why....HARDCORE SPAMMERS LIKE ME DONT SPAM FOR THE POSTCOUNT BUT FOR FUN REGCOGNITION AND THE SPAMEMPEROR (WHICH IS ME)

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    the only thing that helps is a 15 minute floodcontrol...as i sadly experienced :S

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    Emperor, (sorry- Stranger)

    "good" spammers- i.e. thinking spammers, who spam for fun and/or recognition (I personally do it for fun... this place needs some livening up sometimes) do, indeed, follow your guidelines. However, "bad" spammers, i.e. leetists and other internet freaks, spam for postcount and prestige, and these are the spammers that cause problems. Not that "good" spammers do; it's just that they are less problematic. It is like comparing the mid-50's biker gangs, who were just minor hoodlums, but generally friendly guys, to the Hell's Angels style bikers- the rather brutal, Vietnam-vet nutcases. The Hell's Angels spammers make the internet a less fun and friendly place.

    Also, this is not a very good idea- there are some people, such as me, who only post in a few forums, and usually in the Tavern- for me, it is only EB and the Tavern. So cutting out posts for the tavern would be frivolous, because the Tavern is really sort of our home; it is where everybody we know hangs around, and we aren't going to post elsewhere more because we don't get "counted" for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger
    bad bad bad bad idea...it comes straight from the devil...bad bad bad bad devil...bad bad bad Mouzafphaerre

    you know why....HARDCORE SPAMMERS LIKE ME DONT SPAM FOR THE POSTCOUNT BUT FOR FUN REGCOGNITION AND THE SPAMEMPEROR (WHICH IS ME)
    Heh, you missed the Spamfest wher I raisd my postcount with 162 posts in a couple of hours. That`s hardcore..
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    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    It can be reset for only 10 goldpieces.
    Heres 2gold pieces Now you only need 8 more

    Sounds great to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ser Clegane
    Interesting approach, but not really feasible IMHO. Who will decide what qualifies as a "bad" post?
    Other patrons by reporting? I think it's not very hard to imagine the "fun" that would lead to...
    The moderators? I don't assume that a lot of patrons would appreciate being micro-managed by the moderators in such a way (also, we already have enough complaints about perceived bias - I don't think that having moderators rate posts would be a got move)
    its this report bad post button.
    its already here. And its already used.
    Some 1 already must go decide whats right n whats wrong.

    All i sudgest is that you get a little red post count for all of the posts that have been deemed bad.

    I can see how It may lead to more work With people Having a Day out on the report bad post button.
    but its already there so it cant be that bad.

    Prehaps the org Could try a few of the Ideas out on a trial basis, See how it goes kind of thing.
    May help.



    As for karma...

    i was at 1 of the other forums i visit today And i noticed someting,

    32 people had attempted to give me good points becous i had helped fix there problems,
    But i had no good karma about it,
    (did not bother me)
    but i had an argument with 1 mod about the fact that he was an idiot,
    "yah I argue with mods every where if they argue with me"
    And he gave me 1 bad point, and that counted,
    So i dont like karma points lol. :P
    Last edited by Just A Girl; 11-28-2005 at 20:57.

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    It's a good idea. I have good experience on other fora doing this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking
    Heh, you missed the Spamfest wher I raisd my postcount with 162 posts in a couple of hours. That`s hardcore..
    But you got beat, forgot that, eh?


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