Arise My Punk Brethren

[master of the puppets]

I am punk/goth or so all my friends say, hopefully you know what that means if not then you do not belong here, if you do then cmon in, i intend on starting a clan for punk/metal head/goth people but first i will need to know who here considers them selves punkish. if you do just say hi and let me know you hate society in many different ways. hopefully if there are enough of you we can start a group of some kind, and then uh...discuss music, and uhm... ok so i did'nt think that far ahead mabey youi guys can come up with some ideas.

[InsaneApache]

I used to be a punk back in '76-'77...but I'm far too laid back these days for all that 'teen' aggression. Still best of luck to ya!!!!!

[GoreBag]

There was a thread for metalheads a while ago. It died.

[Tricon]

There was a thread for metalheads a while ago. It died.

Sadly, yes.

[GoreBag]

Sadly, yes.

Sadly? I remember killing that thread...do you mean there should be another? No one ever posted.

[Reverend Joe]

I am definitely not a punk or goth- but, my fellow anticultural bretheren, I salute you. (More grass for me, anyway. )

[Duke John]

"Teen agression" indeed. When I was a teenager I was drawing violent scenes and put as many skulls on my Warhammer models as possible (the geek that I am... was!). Now I can't recall what was so fascinating about it.

[Alexanderofmacedon]

I'm not punk or goth, but I'm a metal head...

Metallica
Godsmack
Mudvayne

Rock on brotha!

[Tricon]

Sadly? I remember killing that thread...do you mean there should be another? No one ever posted.

That's true. Still, I think it's agood idea. I have no Idea of how a thread like this can be kept alive ... maybe with regular metall (or in this related case: goth ,punk)news. Or reviews of fovorite albums.
Anyway, by reading the thread and comparing favorite bands with other posters with similar taste, I got to know some nice bands.
For example, since I live in the states I get little exposure to scandinavian metall (the biggies , basically, that's it). Word of mouth , and forums are some of my few resources. There's blabbermouth, but thats basically music bashing. How the hecjk should one know what kind of music Finntroll plays, if you lack all comparison?

Oops, gotta go. Sorry, didn't mean to hijack. It's related in my opinion.

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Neon, I just wasn't around when that thread was...

I'll keep it up!!

You guys ever heard of Shadows Fall?

[Alrowan]

i find it hard to class a punk in the same catagory as a goth, who can sometimes loosley fit in with metal...

most punk/goth claimants tend to be just emo kids.

so why cant punks be goths?

well to put it simply, punk is a political ideal of anarchy and giving it to the man, wheras goth is about enjoying the darker side of life that one might live a fuller life (not about being some depressing kid like a lot of people tend to believe - once again thats a form of Emo) and hence why a goth can be into metal :)


anyway as for me i used to be a punk, but i grew up and now im more of a metal head, listening to the good ol viking tunes such as Stratovarius, Sonata Arctica, Hammerfall, Nightwish, Evergrey and Opeth

[Sjakihata]

uhm... ok so i did'nt think that far ahead

A typical reply from a punk/goth person.

[master of the puppets]

most punk/goth claimants tend to be just emo kids.

what are you accusing me of?

i don't know how to catagorize myself, thats my friends job, and due to my cruel fascination with death and killing plus my rigerous hatred of most political parties and disgust at the modern world they have labled me goth/punk and also (independently?) a metalhead. you tell me.

well alexander i had never heard of them but since u and me like the same music i did a search 4 it on limewire and ramdomly picked out a song called "a fire in babylon" damn good stuff, what songs would be there best.

also have anyone of you heard of Cradle of filth?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Disturbed and drowning pool are pretty good.

[GoreBag]

Ahh! Mallcore, mallcore everywhere!

[Strike For The South]

Country Pwns

[Reverend Joe]

Country Pwns

*snort*

[LeftEyeNine]

Everything that includes brutal or scream vocals, I simply avoid. So Cradle Of Filth had better keep off from my ears..

Nightwish and Stratovarius (power metal bands, right?) are seldom metal bands I love hearing.. You just can not think of anything alerting your nerves better than the intro of Nightwish - Crownless. Stratovarius' Millenium track will one day blow up my cheap Chinese 5.1 speakers because of those kick drums beating like a horse's heart all along.

Recently I'm into that disbanded Sentenced, I just can not stop repeating their Drain Me track over and over..

Streetlight Manifesto is a hot prospect for punk genre. However, though claimed over-popular, I can not deny my love for Offspring and Green Day..

*tunes Offspring - Genocide and puts Green Day - Longview in the queue..*

[monkian]

Um, Im in work with a blue Mohawk and a Misfits top if that counts

Ps Emo is gay.

[Tricon]

I'm not fond of emo either, but for the life of me I don't get why people have to slam music they don't like. Just ignore it then, but don't insult people who listen to it.
The only kind of music I sometimes slam is that which does not involve the playing of actuall instruments. And even THAT was created by someone. (Come to think of it, I don't mind that kind of music either, I just mind that it gets so much airtime and that they make sooo much money of it. ARGH!)

[Geoffrey S]

Gah, labels...

[master of the puppets]

I'm not fond of emo either, but for the life of me I don't get why people have to slam music they don't like. Just ignore it then, but don't insult people who listen to it.

i'm not slaming the music, I'M SLAMMING THE PEOPLE, i used to know some and now i look at them in disgust. a guy wearing girls pants, having wristbands to cover the cutting marks and a scarf tried around there neck falling down over there pink shirt, its unnatural.

ps. i hate there music to, its so...whiny, all they ever talk about how they lost there GFs.

[BDC]

There are no true punks anymore. Everyone washes too much these days.

Even the weird wannabe goths at the My Chem concert all seemed to want to be midwifes or something. Strange people. Although not in the way they think of themselves as strange haha.

[GoreBag]

There are no true punks anymore.

True. Punk died six months after it started.

[Geoffrey S]

i'm not slaming the music, I'M SLAMMING THE PEOPLE, i used to know some and now i look at them in disgust. a guy wearing girls pants, having wristbands to cover the cutting marks and a scarf tried around there neck falling down over there pink shirt, its unnatural.

ps. i hate there music to, its so...whiny, all they ever talk about how they lost there GFs.

So, you're quoting Tricon and doing exactly what he asked you (kindly) not to do? Hating people or music because it doesn't fit in your pigeonhole is a rather immature way of viewing the world.

Anyway, would ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead count as emo? They're ace.

[GoreBag]

Anyway, would ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead count as emo? They're ace.

Hardcore, the genre. So, not necessarily emo, but not metal enough. Of course, I'm an elitist...

[Alrowan]

screamo is emo with screaming...


anyway, emo kids sicken me, sorry Master of Puppets if i accidently labled you sch, but emo kids are basically deadbeats, who have no will to do anything in life, just sit down and whine thier bleading hearts out. One thing to all you Emo kids, blood is RED not BLACK so stop sayin you bleed black and all that crap.

that said, its nice to see things coming out taking the piss out of emo ( http://www.emorangers.com anyone?)

seriously, if a kid was really depressed they wouldnt aim at making it a lifestyle, thats just messed up. I dont know why, but some of the modern emo kids just try to be depressed so they can seem cool, ive seen it all, and its really pathetic.


ANYWAYS if we are going to talk true emo (orriginated in the 80's, we are in the 3rd wave of emo now) then the orriginal emo was actually kinda cool, it was a reference for artists who really got into the performance of thier music, and it was very emotionally charged, not about depressing things so to speak, but mainly politics, life and other such things.


and just to help those who want to see some sort of progression from emo>metal via how hard they get heres how it goes>>>

Emo (kinda pop punk sound, think simple plan, or dashboard confessional)
Screamo (pop punk where the lead singer likes to scream as well as sing)
Hardcore (more screaming, less emo topics, most of these bands are more political leftists)
Metalcore (basically the same as hardcore, usually less screaming vocals, heavier riffs, and bigger sounds overall)
Nu-Metal (kinda slightly out of line, but its where it fits in the scheme of things, basically a tame form of metal, lack of good musicianship, and more about the 3:30 minute single than the music)
Metal (yeah we all know this godly stuff, 10 minute compositions, screaming solos, double kicks on those drums beating at 10000bpm's, mix of vocals from the very deep growls to the high pitch falsetto found in tight jeans)

i could go to list the various progressions in metal, but i tihnk it would require more of a tree diagram, following the history of metal through to modern day, covering all its variants

[A.Saturnus]

I wear black clothes, listen to goth music and go to gothic parties but I´m not a goth.

[Byzantine Prince]

I wear black clothes, listen to goth music and go to gothic parties but I´m not a goth.

Then why do you pretend to be someone you are not?

[A.Saturnus]

Then why do you pretend to be someone you are not?

Who else should I pretend to be?