If you live in Great Britain, do you prefer a Republic or a constitutional monarchy as it is now?
Why?
Why? What other forum would it go in?Originally Posted by Silvouz
And why is everyone posting nothing but questions?
Backroom?Originally Posted by Zorba
sniff... sniff.. politics?
To The Backroom with you!
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I shall die defending Windsor Castle for the Queen against the onslaight of the republican hordes!But not for "Prince "I want to be your tampon" Charles.
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The idea of a royal family with special privileges and rights before the law is totally incompatible with a free and fair state. Plus, they cost us money.
We need to get rid of the royals, ASAP.
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I agree that the idea that one person should have more rights and privileges than everyone else simply because of their birth is wrong and incompatible with our society. However I am not sure of the ease with which they could be removed - the monarchy has been bound into our system for a millenium. it's annoying that we are paying for them, but we actual pay surprisingly little - about 50-ish pence per person per year.Originally Posted by Big King Sanctaphrax
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I don't see how they can ever go on with King Charles and Queen Camilla (whatever her official title may be), i don't see a lot of people ready to defend THEM.
And there aren't many redeeming qualities to be found in Diana's spawn either...![]()
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shocking as it would sound to anybody who really knows me .....
....I think I prefer the monarchy as it is to a republic led by President Blair (or even President Brown or Cameron in the future *shudders*).
I quite like the monarchy is it is right now. But that may be because I am a die-hard Royalist.![]()
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Like Phil the Greek she will only ever be the Princess Consort. I don't mind Charles (sure he's a nob but he deserves a chance), William is going to be the savior of the monarchy.Originally Posted by doc_bean
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I'm quite happy to let them be. I don't even mind Charlie that much, but then being Head of State is about the role not the personality. In my youth I was rather anti-monarchist (ie disliked the monarchy without proposing any real alternative) as so many are. Now I'm happier to have them than not. Sure they cost money but it is nice to have one area of government, however limited, free from inter-party bickering. Plus if you think that getting rid of them would mean lower taxes or more efficient government spending then you are deluding yourself. That said if push came to shove I would probably be a Roundhead rather than a Cavalier though.
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Bring 'em all down, Norman/German gits! We should replace them witha true English Monarch who shares his peoples qualities!
Hmmmm... Bruce Dickinson?
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You also forgot the whole religious clap trap they bring with them but apart from that I whole heartedly agree with your statement.Originally Posted by Big King Sanctaphrax
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INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
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Bruce would be a great monarch, he would bring heavy metal to the masses!Originally Posted by Bopa the Magyar
:D
GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944
Why you hatin on the monarchs JAG? There so cute (In an inbred sorta way.) GOD SAVE THE QUEEN![]()
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so JAG would accept a heavy metal monarchy...
...interesting
As long as it included my favourites ;)Originally Posted by Taffy_is_a_Taff
I dislike the Monarchy because it is inherently unjust and a stain on our country / any country.
GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944
Great Britain is not a monarchy, nor a democracy. As all those countries calling for democracy they're under the rule of a procedimental democracy, but the so called "royal family" has practically no real power, so it's not a monarchy. It's as any other procedimental democracy, only that not only models can win their bread of every day (and plasma television) with their genes, but also you can live well without doing absolutely nothing and protected by the shadow of God....ooooooooo![]()
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Bruce for King !
The reason we ought to get rid of them is all the clap trap they bring in their wake, Lords and ladies and sirs and people generally thinking they are better than everyone else not because of anything they have done but because they are related to a gang of organised criminals in the 13th century. And as for them being modernised, my Right Royal Backside they are, Charlie "why don't people know their place any more" Windsor has views that would embarrass the Monday Club.
The only thing is, if we get rid of them we are going to be in trouble with naming things, eg the Royal Mail will just be "Mail", the RAF will be AF and you have to admit whereas HMS Invincible sounds badass, S Invincible sounds silly. So we would have to sort out something on that front before giving Charlie his marching orders. Maybe we could jkeep the monarchy but declare it vacant, and stick a great big sword through a stone and say whoever pulls it out can be king, it worked quite well last time.
And in the mean time Bruce can be Regent.
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Bha! Monarchy belongs in history books and fairytales.
The only reason to support monarchy would be if the monarch would be elected by the people.![]()
hmmm...I too would rather be a roundhead than a cavalier, but the thought of a politician being head of state fills me with horror. Just look at our former colonies to see the calibre of elected heads of state........ *shivers with horror*
Prez Bliar would be a dangerous move ... he's bad enough now, and he supposed to be accountable to Parliament....well that's the theory. Then again the 'Firm' have no real power.....a figurehead that's all they are, so I say keep the Sax-Coberg-Gothas, albeit with reservations.
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You mean a sort of King Idol?The only reason to support monarchy would be if the monarch would be elected by the people.
Its a thought.
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French president already is a kind of elected king, & it does not work as well as it used to do. Plus french presidency does cost twice what English monarchy does cost.
Plus the tourism income generated by a monarchy is much higher. The problem we have in France is that noone is qualified for the throne(or maybe too much think they are)
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Sure the tourism might be helpful, but who'd keep an extremely unjust system because of the money?
Time for a new revolution I say![]()
Originally Posted by English assassin
Well we had a debate in sweden over the Monarchy issue. (It comes back from time to time when our king does something stupid, as he does that on a regular basis).
Anyway, one of the options presented here in Sweden was that the king would remain a powerless propaganda tool but would be elected by the people.
Odds are that our current king would be elected in such a scenario and that would mean that he atleast would be a "king of the people".
Perhaps we could have a king/queen elected by lottery? Everyone gets a number, and if yours come up you get to be monarch for a year.
On the names front, we could replace the Royal stuff with United Kingdom-So, UKAF instead of RAF, UKS Invincible, and possibly something like the National Mail. Or we could go back to Consignia for that last![]()
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Consider renaming ships from HMS (Her Majesty's Ship) to BS (British Ship).
Although, I have to say - keep the Royals - they're pretty harmless, bring in over a billion pounds in tourism a year and, when they've got their act together, act as marvelous special envoys, nothing quite impresses the natives like a title.
Besides, getting rid of them would be surrendering to mediocrity, conforming to the rest of the world. No thanks.
I'm pretty sure that that's mostly the buildings they're squatting in.bring in over a billion pounds in tourism a year
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