Great Britain: Republic or Monarchy?

[InsaneApache]

Yeah that's the guy....'cheap as chips' I like his haircut it's groovy.....

[Prodigal]

Looking back I have to say I have a problem with the saxons

a) for invading in the first place...Buncha pansies, they should have fought the Huns & died like men
b) for then letting a bunch of normans take over

This seems to have led to the monarchy always being made up of foreigners, (that includes Scots').

*Fun Fact* William Wallace - Wallace means Welshman



Tom Jones would make a better king than Bruce imnsho

[Duke Malcolm]

In the UK, the Scots aren't foreigners, but are a contingent of the UK.

Secondly, Wallace may mean Welshman, but that doesn't mean Sir William Wallace was Welsh.

Thirdly, Sir William Wallace and King Robert the Bruce were unrelated/

[Prodigal]

In the UK, the Scots aren't foreigners, but are a contingent of the UK.

Secondly, Wallace may mean Welshman, but that doesn't mean Sir William Wallace was Welsh.

Thirdly, Sir William Wallace and King Robert the Bruce were unrelated/

HAHA! A bite!

I was thinking James I rather than ol' Brucey boy...And I'm thinking of a word Oh yes! PICT That's the one, remeber the Irish settlers who called themselves scots? Invited all the pictish kings to one place & killed them all?

Now (*thinks*) why would an Irishman who settled in "scotland" call himself Welshman...hhhhmmmm.

So you see my point? Unless James I happened to be a pict, (which would be pretty bloody unlikely considering what happened to all the pictish kings), then he was a scot, (which means that really he was originally irish), & he then became king of england, but, I'm pretty sure that the natives didn't call the place England (or anything remotly close to that), prior to an invasion of saxons, who in turn were conquered by a bunch of nordic refugee's who had invaded part of gaul or france or whatever.

So that sums up my thoughts on the current monarchy, & if you think I'm bitter about this don't even get me started about the italians

[Duke Malcolm]

HAHA! A bite!

I was thinking James I rather than ol' Brucey boy...And I'm thinking of a word Oh yes! PICT That's the one, remeber the Irish settlers who called themselves scots? Invited all the pictish kings to one place & killed them all?

The Kings of the Scots of Dalriada had a claim on the throne of the Picts, wince King Kenneth MacAlpin being the Grandson of a Pictish King. He just enforced his claim by eradicating the Pictish Army

Now (*thinks*) why would an Irishman who settled in "scotland" call himself Welshman...hhhhmmmm.

The people of South-West modern Scotland were British people, i.e. almost Welsh. In Wallace's time this land had been part of Scotland for almost 3 centuries, he was Scottish, I assure you

So you see my point? Unless James I happened to be a pict, (which would be pretty bloody unlikely considering what happened to all the pictish kings), then he was a scot, (which means that really he was originally irish), & he then became king of england, but, I'm pretty sure that the natives didn't call the place England (or anything remotly close to that), prior to an invasion of saxons, who in turn were conquered by a bunch of nordic refugee's who had invaded part of gaul or france or whatever.

I don't quite see your point, no...
King James VI & I was directly descended from King Kenneth MacAlpin, who was from both Pictish and Scottish stock.

[Prodigal]

The Kings of the Scots of Dalriada had a claim on the throne of the Picts, wince King Kenneth MacAlpin being the Grandson of a Pictish King. He just enforced his claim by eradicating the Pictish Army.

But considering the picts followed a matrilinear line, being the grandson seems a bit dodgy. Also the fact that the only historical line of the pictsh kings was written by people that you could consider as being enemies of the picts means its not possible to say how accurate it is. Personally I think that Oengus, by uniting picts & scotii really was the one to blur the lines between the two distinct groups.

The people of South-West modern Scotland were British people, i.e. almost Welsh. In Wallace's time this land had been part of Scotland for almost 3 centuries, he was Scottish, I assure you

Yeah, but its far to good a wind up to let pass.

I don't quite see your point, no...
King James VI & I was directly descended from King Kenneth MacAlpin, who was from both Pictish and Scottish stock.

Exactly! You see! The scottish-pict king's, (and considering the pictish language has been lost would kind of lean toward the MORE scot than pict), invited down south to rule over a bunch of frenchified germans. (I appreciate the recet DNA tests that have been done don't support the genocide theory of invasion, but what the hell)

[Slyspy]

I like the fact that a Greek claims his children will be British because they will be born here yet argues that the Queen is German. Ah the irony!

As for the equality issue I say GAH! There are plenty of people with inherited wealth and I don't ask for some of theirs. Bringing people down in life is the worst way to achieve equality IMO. So when we all sit in our government tenements waiting months for our government car we can look at the Windsors in the flat next door and be happy? GAH again.

Help, help, I'm being oppressed!

[ShadesWolf]

1- It proposes a formal unequality. 2- It proposes a real unequality when the royal family has to do nothing to survive while "lesser" beings have to look for a job. That alone is enough at least for me.

Whats that got to do with monarchy ?
Dont governments propose formal unequality ?

and as for the other point Plenty of people dont have to work. So I see that this is an invalid point !

If you are trying to drag the rich man poor man thing into this thats a different discussion. Plenty of people have made money in one generation that then means future generations dont need to work. Thats capitalism.

[Soulforged]

Whats that got to do with monarchy ?
Dont governments propose formal unequality ?

Yes I know if you read my previous posts you'll see that I didn't say that Britain was a monarchy.

and as for the other point Plenty of people dont have to work. So I see that this is an invalid point !

No it's not. Formally they're above all other man. The fact that they've the possibility to survive without even adding anything useful to society is secondary to my point primarily because that kind of parasite appears in every country in various forms, Maradona for example.

If you are trying to drag the rich man poor man thing into this thats a different discussion. Plenty of people have made money in one generation that then means future generations dont need to work. Thats capitalism.

Exactly, I've seen a curious quote from one of the members that appears ironic really now that you said this...

[Incongruous]

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[InsaneApache]

I am Bruce the First and I say thus proclaim!

Good game, good game....nice to see you, to see you nice....higher or lower?...

Yes good choice I love Brucie.

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