Problem with my Dane campaign...

**rvg** · 11-30-2005, 18:37

Started my Dane campaign (Normal, Early), conquered about 45% of the map, got obscene amount of money from trade, but... my kings are absolute and utter crap. A leader of the largest faction on the map starting with 2(!!!) Influence, which *may* get to 3. What can I do to fix this? I have the Largest Army, the largest territory, over 1.4 million florins, etc...

I'm just afraid that a civil war may erupt at any given moment.

**Ludens** · 11-30-2005, 18:46

Originally Posted by rvg

Started my Dane campaign (Normal, Early), conquered about 45% of the map, got obscene amount of money from trade, but... my kings are absolute and utter crap. A leader of the largest faction on the map starting with 2(!!!) Influence, which *may* get to 3. What can I do to fix this? I have the Largest Army, the largest territory, over 1.4 million florins, etc...

I'm just afraid that a civil war may erupt at any given moment.

I am afraid a King's starting influence is set per faction. The only thing that helps is a crusade or a conquering spree for every new king. Relieving sieged allies is also supposed to work.

**rvg** · 11-30-2005, 18:52

Yeah, a crusade would be nice. But I guess, if Danes could Crusade, they would be overpowered. They are already ridiculously easy as they are.

**Bohdan, Lord of Courland** · 12-03-2005, 11:54

Thats what usually happens when you decide to stop conquering the world and decide to settle down and concentrate on peaceful matters

But 2 influence for a ruler of such a large empire sounds a bit too little

I guess you have to go and conquer the rest of the map now

**NodachiSam** · 12-13-2005, 07:19

You should try to boost your influence one way or another (conquest, relieving beseiged allies, crusades(doesn't apply to danes though), defeating rebels, most often just conquest) I believe the higher your king's influence the more likely your sons will get good stars. If you want you can ferment rebellions and have your royals quell them to gain stars.

Be sure to build things to get the builder virtue and the steward line of virtues is good too (building farms) Those increase loyalty and loyalty and happiness which'll help offset the low influence.

**lugh** · 12-13-2005, 12:08

I'm just afraid that a civil war may erupt at any given moment.

This is a good thing!

Strip your finest general of his titles give him your best men and send him to the far reaches of the Empire. Take your King on the offensive against stupid odds, losing a few battles on the run (don't do it on purpose though, you need him to weaken the neighbours so they don't ride roughshod over your generals future realm).
Loyalty will plummet, and hopefully your kick ass general will be leading the rebels. Support him and you've a brand new dynasty to get off the ground!

**matteus the inbred** · 12-13-2005, 12:39

more crafty high-risk strategy from the man in the hood! low influence kings producing mentally retarded 0-loyalty 0-command heirs are such a pain, so perhaps a manufactured rebellion is indeed the best solution. not sure i'd have the patience to deal with one when it's fought over 45% of the map though!

presumably not a problem the HRE faces very often, as they elect the next leader...

**lugh** · 12-13-2005, 12:51

more crafty high-risk strategy from the man in the hood!

I've had civil wars as the HRE. It doesn't take a Kings death to set one off, the plummeting loyalty that it causes can be a help if you're aiming for one though. If I ever fix MTW, I'm going to get Barborossa on the throne in this way, once and for all!

**The Stranger** · 12-13-2005, 12:55

thats anoying...i usually assassinate weak heirs...when you have a big empire you usually get dissapointed by your heirs...the best solutions are already named...soo...just try...if you dont want to conquer relieving allies is the best way...though i doubt that you still have allies which is usually so when yur the strongest

**matteus the inbred** · 12-13-2005, 13:01

yeah, funnily enough nobody wants to be friends anymore...!
i'm a big fan of the 'put your crap heir in an impossible military situation and 'forget' to support him' option. and if that doesn't work, you generally get a combat demon who can fight anything.
sometimes you get no choice, such as when you have a 60-odd year old king with only one son. he may be an idiot, sire, but he's the only idiot we have...