nationalize or privatize

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    yesdachi said:

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    Privatize everything that is not critical to basic national functionality. Like roads, very basic healthcare, prison, court system, police, military, some others but basically the things that absolutely need to be in place should be nationalized. Then privatize everything else but keep a watchdog system in place so corporations or influential people cant gain too much power.
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    Kagemusha said:

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    I think you can privatize everyhing else then the Government itself,the emergency services,the police and the Army.
    I personally like the nationalized Healthcare system,but i dont see why it could not work also provided by Privat hospitals.
    Same goes with the education.
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    bmolsson said:

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    The important thing is not privatization. The important thing is competition. No monopolies should be allowed. Who actually owns the legal entities is irrelevant.
     
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    doc_bean said:

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    Privatizing only works if you can guarantee sufficient competition, that's imho what's causing all these problems with privatisation in Europe.

    That said, I feel trains should remain nationalized, i find our current system much more efficient than the privatized dutch system (*shudder*). Distribution of electricity shouldn't be privatized either, think of all the extra lines that would be needed ! Roads by private companies works in france, but wouldn't in Belgium. Water is partly privatized already, the postal services are a money pit anyway, I don't see any profit in it either way.
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    lugh said:

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    I'm in favour of nationalizing a lot of stuff, but not in a monopolistic manner.
    For example, here at least, some bus routes etc just aren't economical but serve a social purpose; with even partial privatization we've seen routes cut off. So let the private industry in but maintain a state network as well, after all, competition is good.

    Another matter is strategic interest. Energy is too important to allow into solely private hands, a state operator is needed to ensure minimum service in times of emergency. Here at least, the energy pool is private where the infrastructure is nationalized, everyone power comes from a pool, so each company doesn't have the cost of laying lines etc etc
    Same in telephone, or was until the state company was privatised, AFAIK the infrastructure is still the states property.
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    Ja'chyra said:

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    Nationalise everything and run it for profit.

    Seriously, the main thing wrong with nationalised industries is they have ne incentive to be competitive, if you could tie in profit making to bonuses etc then I'm sure they would be much more efficient.
     
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    JAG said:

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    All infrastructure and other industry vital to the running and well being of the people in the state should be nationalised, it is simply not good enough to allow such important industry to be at the hands of market forces, there can be no loosers in this industry, thus nationalisation is the only way forward which is fair to everyone.

    However I am shifting on how exactly you run the nationalised industry, I would be willing to see some private companies run certain aspects of an industry. For instance using private companies to build the buildings for the NHS, etc. Things such as that I don't really have much problem with.
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    Arcanum said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by yesdachi
    Privatize everything that is not critical to basic national functionality. Like roads, very basic healthcare, prison, court system, police, military, some others but basically the things that absolutely need to be in place should be nationalized. Then privatize everything else but keep a watchdog system in place so corporations or influential people cant gain too much power.
    Unlike in the U.S., I agree.
    Although if that "watchdog-system" works, stands in the stars.
     
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