Does the world need to be more... evil?

[Byzantine Prince]

Is the world too nice, and are people too nice to eachother. Is this whole christian ideal actually making god angry? How can we know. Perhaps god wants us to be more evil. Hm?

[Quietus]

Does the world need to be more... evil?Is the world too nice, and are people too nice to eachother. Is this whole christian ideal actually making god angry? How can we know. Perhaps god wants us to be more evil. Hm?

Define "evil".

[Byzantine Prince]

Define "evil".

Morally wrong, or harmful. Deliberately causing harm to someone. Causing misfortune. Strong desire to cause harm.

[Uesugi Kenshin]

BP I think people are doing a good enough job making the world an "evil" place on their own. Less "evil" would be nice.

[Productivity]

Genocides etc. occur, yet he asks does the world need to be more evil...

[Reverend Joe]

I would say less... I really want to find a way around the Reptilian complex.

[Byzantine Prince]

Genocides etc. occur, yet he asks does the world need to be more evil...

In the Bible, God has caused genocides more then once. Examples are those of Noah's Arc, and those of the Exodus and Moses.

Does the world need to be more evil?

[Hurin_Rules]

"'Man must become better and more evil'—thus do I teach."

Friedrich Nietzsche

[Ja'chyra]

Is the world too nice, and are people too nice to eachother. Is this whole christian ideal actually making god angry? How can we know. Perhaps god wants us to be more evil. Hm?

God who? Shouldn't God be capitalised?

Morally wrong, or harmful. Deliberately causing harm to someone. Causing misfortune. Strong desire to cause harm.

Define morally wrong.

Deliberately causing harm to someone

Like dentists?

[LeftEyeNine]

"'Man must become better and more evil'—thus do I teach."

Friedrich Nietzsche

" If Nietzsche is not an ordinary nutcase who was unusually one that was able to write books, then I am a TV antenna."

LEN

Like dentists?

That's a word play. You know what one means when talking about being evil.

[Sjakihata]

Define "evil".

The abscense of good.

[LeftEyeNine]

Shajikata, guess what, Ja'chyra will be asking that : "Define good then"

[Byzantine Prince]

That's a word play. You know what one means when talking about being evil.

No, people don't. That's why I am asking this question. There is a very specific reason for such an inquiry.

Absence of good is not necessarily evil. Although the truth is that there is an absence of both. You figure the rest.

[Fragony]

Untill we are invaded by the martians it is evil enough as it is.

[Ja'chyra]

No, people don't. That's why I am asking this question. There is a very specific reason for such an inquiry.

Absence of good is not necessarily evil.

Don't normally agree with you BP, but you're spot on here.

[Kanamori]

"Evil" is inherently wrong, so it seems odd, if not downright contradictory, that some infinite/absolute being would want us to do wrong. It is quite another thing to say that genocides are in fact "good," or right, while they are widely beleived to be wrong.

There is a very specific reason for such an inquiry.

A human cannot be sure that his conceptions of what is good and what is evil are correct. However, it does not follow that true good and true evil do not exist.

[LeftEyeNine]

No, people don't. That's why I am asking this question. There is a very specific reason for such an inquiry.

Absence of good is not necessarily evil. Although the truth is that there is an absence of both. You figure the rest.

"Word play" was directed to Ja'chyra 's comments. "Inquiry of what evilish is" is a nonsense "see, I can think!" question.

[English assassin]

Who can know what BP is on?

What I believe Nietzsche meant, though, was that man should act according to a moral code he himself took responsibility for, instead of doing what he was told by "God". Hence Beyond Good and Evil. He didn't deny morality, just the "slave morality" of christianity, which he regarded as elevating self evidently bad things to the status of "good" as a psychological device to make the weak feel better about their weakness. Whereas through facing up to the struggle and pain they could overcome their weaknesses and become the "superman".

Personally I don't agree that most Christian values are bad things dressed up as good, but I do agree that we should take responsibility for our own moraility instead of looking to have it imposed on us. But I would also observe that most people would make a bad job of their own morality, and therefore my overall conclusion is that I should be more evil and the rest of you should not...

[master of the puppets]

if evil is a play for violence, murder , killings then it will level out the world to a degree, if there is a known evil everyone will want protection so soon it will be almost imposible for evil to go unscathed as they never know who is armed, its like the old west, for the thousands of guns there were relatively few gunfights as everyone was afraid of the potential of others. also inheerintly evil is turmoil and it hates its own kind, in the mob days of the 30s murders were at a record low unless you were in the gang cause if someone was mugged/killed on a gangsters territory it was consoidered a outright threat and the mod would seek out and destroy sed threat. mabey evil to some degree can bring stability.

[Somebody Else]

The world needs more... efficiency. In certain cases, that is synonymous with what people call 'evil'. Tough, it's necessary.

Unfortunately people prefer a liberal do-gooder chaos, which doesn't do very much in terms of human advancement.

[Rodion Romanovich]

It wouldn't hurt if more people dared to think evil thoughts. Then they'd get past them, and realize that usually the good is more benefitial, which is the teaching of Machiavellianism and many other [society] philosophical directions. Today we have many who are childishly proud of being able to act evil, thinking they're Machiavallianists, but in reality they're just acting evil because it's exciting to do something forbidden, and since they don't dare to fully get rid of all taboo and think without any moral at all, they never get past the picture of evilness and immorality being bad for themselves and their group. The basic reason why ethics and moral at all exists in culture is because it's a major part of our biological inheritance. It IS better to act in a way closely remniscent of some of the popular non-religious rules about moral and honor, but today there's too many sets of moral rules so far from the biologically inherited, true moral which unites all humans, that people's vision is obscured, and they fail to recieve this beatiful insight.

In general there's very little deliberate evilness in this world, if any at all. Usually those who act evil do so in defense against a "homicidal maniac". It's usually caused by misunderstandings and bad structures in world society interaction.

[QwertyMIDX]

"'Man must become better and more evil'—thus do I teach."

Friedrich Nietzsche

That is exactly what I thought when I read this post.

[yesdachi]

But I would also observe that most people would make a bad job of their own morality...

Yah, I’m too lazy to stick to my own morality. I’d do ok for the first few days then spiral slide down to evil town, population +1.

edit to add...
According to Burt Bacharach, What the world needs now is love, sweet love It's the only thing that there's just too little of What the world needs now is love, sweet love, No not just for some but for everyone.

[kiwitt]

God who? Shouldn't God be capitalised?

He is already, just ask the Catholic Church and their bank. Ask the Evangelists and their banks

[Redleg]

LOL -

Philisophy......

[Papewaio]

The absence of mathematics is not necessarily philosophy.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

pft...YEAH! If there is no evil, there is no good either. For evil defines good, and good defines evil.

[Alexanderofmacedon]

It's kind of hard to vote, so I will not...

Although you are right, whose to say that God doesn't want more 'evil'? Who knows maybe he'd be happy if no one believed in him...

[Papewaio]

pft...YEAH! If there is no evil, there is no good either. For evil defines good, and good defines evil.

I disagree, one does not need to be sick to be healthy.

[Kanamori]

It had been commonly put forward, as a solution to the problem of evil, that evil was merely a negation of good. Where good was a positive thing, and evil was simply a lack of good.