Hi- HRE ships?

**HighLord z0b** · 12-01-2005, 05:21

Hi, sorry for the noob questions.
I'm playing original MTW, as the germans around 1160, the only ships I can build are Barques. I have the most advanced dockyards I can make. I skipped a few years quickly and I still couldn't make anything better after the compass. Do I need to wait till 1205 or am I missing something?

Also, if a building or a unit's requirements list a build with ++++ after it what does that mean?

**Mouzafphaerre** · 12-01-2005, 06:22

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Welcome to the ORG HighLord z0b,

I can't be certain from memory but IIRC you need a second building at a certain level to build better ships --might be the cannon foundry or admiralty, can't remember right now.

It's in the tech-tree.
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**lugh** · 12-01-2005, 11:42

Hi!
1) You're right, you have to wait until 1205 for the new tech unfortunately.
2) IIRC, as Mouzafphaerre said, some of the further ships require cannon foundries and the like, but there should be better ships you can build in the interim.

**Kralizec** · 12-01-2005, 13:26

I'm pretty sure you should be able to build the caraval with the second level of dockyard

**Ludens** · 12-01-2005, 16:17

Originally Posted by Germaanse Strijder

I'm pretty sure you should be able to build the caraval with the second level of dockyard

You also need to wait for the invention of the compass in 1170.

**The Darkhorn** · 12-01-2005, 22:54

I've never been able to build caravels till 1205.

**HighLord z0b** · 12-01-2005, 23:11

thanks for the help,
I'm now at 1180 (after the compass) and I still cannot make Caravels and I have the most advanced dockyards I can build so I presume I will have to wait till 1205.

Anyone have any idea about the +++ listed in requirements? ie. requires dockyard ++++ ?

**elbasto** · 12-02-2005, 02:38

Here's a link from where you can download the techtree.

http://www.3ddownloads.com/totalwar/...E1F7920915FBA#

I'm not sure how do the different in game time periods work though.